[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

[Romanic]

Greyblades scanned Diamondeye as having only one power on N8 (Shadow Shield)

I'm afraid i cant let you do that dave... uh anyway 2 nights ago I was given an ability called combat visor

last night I used it on diamond eye and all I found was this

I dont know if this completely absolves him, I doubt that this ability is fool proof, during my first incarnation I was given an ability that blocks investigtions, but if he was able to block it I think I would have not been able to get shadow shield out of him. As such I dont think he's mafia or at least not one of the people killing last night.

@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?


@everyone: Can anyone explain how shields work? Can you have more than once shield active at night? Are they passive or active abilities?

[Greyblades]

@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?

He could have gotten another ability last night.

@everyone: Can anyone explain how shields work? Can you have more than once shield active at night? Are they passive or active abilities?

As far as I know you can only have one on at a time and I'm not sure if they are turned on untill specifically turned off or switched.

[autolycus]

Well, just trying to guess based on what I've seen of the game so far.

47 players

3 Bowser at start: Peach, disguised as IDFH, Samus, disguised as GF. Dooblis disguised as ??

3 Phazon at start. Strife, disguised as IDFH, Dark Samus, disguised as IDFH., Pikachu, disguised as ???

Space Pirate disguised as IDFH

Omega Weapon, disguised as GF

Dedede: Disguised as IDFH

That's 9, which leaves 38 innocents of various stripes.

It seems reasonable to assume that there is symmetry between GF and IDFH and also with regards to the heroes' background.

3 GF-based Heroes are dead, 3 IDFH-based Heroes are dead.

Captain Falcon and Admiral Dane are almost certainly Heroes.

Now, we could have one more from each side as Heroes, leaving 28 to be 14 Survivalists of each type.

Or, the Captain and the Admiral could be the only remaining Heroes, leaving 30 to be 15 and 15.

11 players left.
Captain
Admiral
Pikachu
Dooplis
Vivian
Goombario
Kanden
GF Researcher
Demo Trooper?
U-mos


If all of those are real,
2 unknown characters

12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.
Assuming symmetry, which I think is reasonable, regardless of if there are two more heroes, we have one too many GF characters. One of GF Researcher, Demo Trooper, and U-mos is a fake. Researcher used super missile. It's either Demo Trooper or U-mos. Who's our U-mos?

[Romanic]

You can add U-Mos (Csargo's true role, or cover role) and Kanden, who survived an attack by Doopliss On Night 7.

[autolycus]

You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

[Romanic]

You also forgot Gorea. The symmetry is broken (oops).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

Aren't the phazon disgusied is idfh, and the boweser disguised as GF?

[Csargo]

You know what, since my case is based on symmetry, it seems to me that Dooplis needs to be disguised as IDFH. Atpg and others have said DE isn't pikachu. Therefore, I'm going to have to unvote, vote: csargo.

P.S. On the subject of role claims, I'm goombario, and I'm an IDFH survivalist.

Hi, my name is U-Mos and I'm a Hero

Vote:DE sleep time

[TinCow]

12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.

Yes, the IDFH do seem to have a significant advantage, don't they?

[Romanic]

Yes, the IDFH do seem to have a significant advantage, don't they?

****PROPAGANDA ALERT****

IDFH cannot win with the mafia if one Hero/GF/Bowser is still alive, and we have evidence that at least 2 heroes are alive. The IDFH numerical advantage means nothing here.

[TinCow]

IDFH cannot win with the mafia if one Hero/GF/Bowser is still alive, and we have evidence that at least 2 heroes are alive. The IDFH numerical advantage means nothing here.

Absolutely true. Like I said, we don't expect people to join in with us now. There are several days left to go. We only ask our IDFH friends to consider their options as the rest of you lot are butchered like swine.

[autolycus]

Romanic, I remembered Gorea his team was Omega Weapon. He's listed. There was an odd number of players, and Dedede was neutral. Now for cover-role parity, Pikachu should also be disguised as GF. So if someone else is still out there who's GF that isn't on the list, they should speak up now, because then we'd know we have two fakes, almost certainly both of U-mos and Demo Trooper.

[Romanic]

Romanic, I remembered Gorea his team was Omega Weapon. He's listed. There was an odd number of players, and Dedede was neutral. Now for cover-role parity, Pikachu should also be disguised as GF. So if someone else is still out there who's GF that isn't on the list, they should speak up now, because then we'd know we have two fakes, almost certainly both of U-mos and Demo Trooper.

My bad, Gorea = Omega Weapon.

I'll double check your numbers quickly and will tell you what I think.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

Almost. But I mainly agree with the rest.