Have some few questions! :)

[Valion]

Does Sparta have a school or academy? Without one of those, young FMs quickly become managerially inept.

Nope! i Havent bothered building an academy in Sparta since athens is nearlby with a library, and really? I'l build an academy in sparta then i never knew that they'd become so bad in management in just one turn.

Oh and just curious how long does it take to train a unit of Spartiatai Hoplitai? i wanna know before i invest in upgrading my MIC.

Thanks Quintus!

[Valion]

This is weird! After i removed the Stunningly Incompetent trait and sent him to Corinth he actually become a superb administrator after one turn! Is this a bug? oh i forgot the FM i'm talking about is an Athenian. I also reloaded when he had the Stunningly Incompetent trait and just sent him to Corinth w/o removing the trait and it just disappeared after one turn O.o

So in regards i didnt have to remove the trait via console hahaha OMG playing the Greeks is getting more interesting :D

[QuintusSertorius]

A lot of an FM's traits are formed by those first five years or so from Coming of Age - if you put them somewhere with an academy, they tend to becoming bookish. Somewhere with a temple, devout. Somewhere with a gymnasium, fit. And so on and so forth. Get the balance of buildings wrong for your objective, and you get surprises like that.

[vollorix]

IIRC, it depends on the government type and the heritage of the FM. You can see it in the description of their "gens": i.e. "...he would best suited to manage homeland reagions", means type 1. It doesn´t apply to all FM, especially not to the starting ones, i think, but its the same with the Carthaginians: if you put a Punno-Iberian to run Kart-Hadast he will immidiatly get the "stunnigly incompetent" trait, but if you let him gouvern your spanish holdings, and he can soon become a good administrator, though not immidietly.

[Valion]

A lot of an FM's traits are formed by those first five years or so from Coming of Age - if you put them somewhere with an academy, they tend to becoming bookish. Somewhere with a temple, devout. Somewhere with a gymnasium, fit. And so on and so forth. Get the balance of buildings wrong for your objective, and you get surprises like that.

Oh wow i never knew that! that's a very nice bit of information so thanks very much!

And please have a for all stuff you've helped me with :)

IIRC, it depends on the government type and the heritage of the FM. You can see it in the description of their "gens": i.e. "...he would best suited to manage homeland reagions", means type 1. It doesn´t apply to all FM, especially not to the starting ones, i think, but its the same with the Carthaginians: if you put a Punno-Iberian to run Kart-Hadast he will immidiatly get the "stunnigly incompetent" trait, but if you let him gouvern your spanish holdings, and he can soon become a good administrator, though not immidietly.

Yup i actually just understood that one, hehe i was too lazy to read their ancestry.

and btw can you tell me how long does it take to train Spartiatai Hoplitai?

[Ludens]

"Stunningly incompetent" just means they are in charge of a government they are not suited to, like Athenians in Sparta. It's not permanent: IIRC it disappears as soon as they are placed in a town with the right government.

[Valion]

"Stunningly incompetent" just means they are in charge of a government they are not suited to, like Athenians in Sparta. It's not permanent: IIRC it disappears as soon as they are placed in a town with the right government.

Yup i learned that one today :)
But does is also mean they equally get Superb Administrator when they are in charge of a government they are suited to? like what happened in my game?

Cheers!

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Spartiatoi take 1 turn to train as all other infantry do. They do require the highest level of barracks though which takes some time to get to.

And Quintus I'm surprised by your experience with Thessalians. They have good stamina, the same as Molosson Agema, better than Hetairoi. Sure they're not Prodromoi in terms of stamina but they are the same as Lonchophoroi and are better chargers.

[Ca Putt]

it is more likely at least.

generally it is advisable to not send every young FM to sparta, personally I only send those there that I want to use as generals later, mainly spartans. youthlings that have a more administrative tendancy spend their youth in athens to pick up some nerdiness ;). that's how I do it atleast. good for you that you'll probably won't have many level 1 govs so your spartans are free to command your armies ;)
on cavalry: the further away you get from sparta, the better your cav selection gets(according to the unit list) the variety in cavalry in sparta is unfavorable to say the least, athens and corith can supply hippakontistai(extremely underrated) and lonchophoroi, thermon adds Xystophoroi, and in tessaly you already get the prodromoi and yar favorite mounted heavy skirmishers(not actually bad but more of a lategame bonus than anything else)aswell. further up you even get some nice regional units like the aforementioned thrakian prodromoi(tho the trakian light horsies are sorta mediocre) and in illyria you get my personal favorite: illyrian light cav^^.

alltogether a bit sucky compared with your fellow hellens but not that bad anyway.

tessalians may be marginally better than Xystophoroi but that does not at all justify the costs, as KH I'd allways go with your cheap home made version instead of the mercenary. they have a really great AOR for an elite unit and do the job just as good.

and(once you've got xystophoroi or Prodromoi) don't forget the hippeis they may not have the sorta charge we all love about RTW yet they are exellent at relieving your lancers of the melee and pin down the enemy so you can charge the others again.

and afaik epirotes does only get regional acess to Toxotai kretikoi unlike the KH who get them via the factional MIC

[Ludens]

But does is also mean they equally get Superb Administrator when they are in charge of a government they are suited to? like what happened in my game?

No, they have to earn that. As in reality, it's easier to do things wrong than to do them right.