This really has to stop

**Fragony** · 01-01-2011, 16:43

36 coptic christians killed in Egypt, leftist people know it's respect, it's pretty normal by now. Lefist people know hatebeards are the new jews even if the old ones cannot be found where culture is enriched, ignorance is blitz.

**The Stranger** · 01-01-2011, 17:54

the point is? stop killin coptic christians because they are coptic? or because they are christians? or because killing is always wrong? or should leftist people stop being leftist people? or should we stop the ignorance?

**rory_20_uk** · 01-01-2011, 18:12

Egypt was Christian until the Muslims conquered it. Might is or at least was right.

What they do in their own ghastly country is their own problem. Our concern is what happens over here.

**Fisherking** · 01-01-2011, 18:31

Oh, yes that must be right.

Then again why is everyone inflamed by American laws and practices. Not a European problem, right?

I thought that human rights were everyone’s concern, no?

Is the lack of interest because it is far away, or because the victims were Christians, or because the perpetrators were Muslims?

There also seems to be a lack of interest on the part of the Egyptian government to do anything about these sorts of things. Perhaps not as bad as Pakistan, where the rumor of lessening the blasphemy laws results in strikes and riots but nothings says it can’t escalate.

So much for a community of nations.

**rory_20_uk** · 01-01-2011, 18:47

What, exactly, would you propose?

A note of condemnation?
Free money / aid?
Troops / police?

"Something must be done" is right up there with "think of the children!" in terms of utility.

**Fisherking** · 01-01-2011, 19:00

No, we should deny that there are any human rights abuses occurring in any Islamic countries and ignore the whole thing.

If you don’t see a problem then there is no problem, right?

**Louis VI the Fat** · 01-01-2011, 18:39

Sad. The Christian communities in the Middle East are the oldest in the world. They have endured for two thousand years. We may see them all destroyed, forever, in our lifetime.

There is an etnic cleansing going on in the Middle East. Harassment, religious pressure, emigration and demographic developments have sharply reduced the numbers of non-Islamic populations throughout the Middle East. Many are on the brink of extinction.

Tragically, non-Muslims have been very influential in Arabian nationalist movements the oast century. Their project of secular states, of an Arabian revival, seems to have largely failed. A sad irony. Rivalled in irony perhaps only by Iraq, in which Christians enjoyed a reasonable status ten years ago, but which is now etnically cleansed of non-Muslims.

**Fragony** · 01-01-2011, 19:31

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

Egypt was Christian until the Muslims conquered it. Might is or at least was right.

What they do in their own ghastly country is their own problem. Our concern is what happens over here.

Rory I would never have you as a doctor, you are capable of telling me I'm going to have slow and painful death while solving a seduko

**rory_20_uk** · 01-01-2011, 19:48

Originally Posted by Fragony

Rory I would never have you as a doctor, you are capable of telling me I'm going to have slow and painful death while solving a seduko

To be fair, I'd get the nurse to tell you. I'd be more interested to know if you were going to be cremated as I get some decent money for that.

**Fisherking** · 01-01-2011, 20:17

Clearly religious intolerance is the underlying issue.

To me, religion just seems an excuse for disagreement and bloodshed.

At least in the media it is being portrayed either as a misunderstood religion of peace or a threat to world security.

What the truth is, I don’t know. But clearly something needs to be done regarding increasing militant acts against non-believers in their religion.

There isn’t much that can be more abhorrent than religious violence. There are those who feel justified in most any act, no matter how heinous.

There is no reasoning with them. Those who preach peace are usually the first victims.

Increased tolerance on the part of western countries is seen as weakness, meanwhile countries with Islamic majorities are unwilling or unable to deal with it.

What do we do?

I wish I knew!

Maybe I could get some decent money out of that.

**Vuk** · 01-03-2011, 17:51

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

Egypt was Christian until the Muslims conquered it. Might is or at least was right.

What they do in their own ghastly country is their own problem. Our concern is what happens over here.

Really? Then why did we go into Bosnia? Kosovo? Why did we stop Hitler? What goes on in Europe is the business of Europeans, right? Screw those stupid Jews and Poles, it is their problem, right?