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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Incidents are covered, not the structional nature of them reoccuring. Certainly not in the way other issues are highlighted. It really is new, while second rate citizens they were not unwelcome.
    I don't understand how it can be new if it's reoccuring.


    I mean in April of 2009 the government was killing off all the copt's pigs because of the fear of an epidemic.



    And look, here's an article from 10 years ago:

    World Ancient church struggles in Muslim Egypt

    March 30, 2000


    An excerpt from this CNN World article:
    Tensions between Muslims and Christians erupted into violence in early January in the southern Egyptian town of Kosheh, leaving 23 people mostly Christians dead. While most Egyptians, both Muslim and Christian, condemned the killings, the incident raised concern around the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910 View Post
    I don't understand how it can be new if it's reoccuring.


    I mean in April of 2009 the government was killing off all the copt's pigs because of the fear of an epidemic.



    And look, here's an article from 10 years ago:

    World Ancient church struggles in Muslim Egypt

    March 30, 2000


    An excerpt from this CNN World article:
    Not talking new when talking in 10 years, new as in 80 years or so, just a tiny part of history. Fact remains that things have changed, these communities are really old, they were never hunted down in such a way. Isn't really that much to ask to treat non-muslims as we treat muslims here. Because we treat them as equals we can demand that from them as well.

    About the pigs, that wasn't pretty, guess they really don't like pigs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not talking new when talking in 10 years, new as in 80 years or so, just a tiny part of history. Fact remains that things have changed, these communities are really old, they were never hunted down in such a way.
    That's my boy.


    Here's a quick linky. Already nearly a decade old, and the probems have only intensified since then.
    Arabic-speaking Christians have been one of the main casualties of the destabilizing events of the twentieth century, and especially of the Western-created system of modern Arab states. This religious community found itself deeply immersed in a series of global changes that it could not influence, let alone shape.
    We shall identify the major Christian groups in the Arab world, touch on their plight, and propose an agenda for their full integration into their own countries.


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    Egypt. Bonds of brotherhood and a strong sense of ethnic homogeneity and national identity brought Muslims and Copts together at the inception of modern Egyptian nationalism in the middle of the nineteenth century. However, under British occupation, these bonds slowly eroded. In 1911, for example, the organizers of a Coptic conference demanded equality with their Muslim compatriots (such as the recognition of Sunday as a holiday, government spending on Coptic schools, and including Coptic deputies in the national parliament). Unfortunately, these basic Coptic demands fell on deaf Muslim ears. While participation in national politics and preoccupation with getting rid of the British occupying power overshadowed religious differences and inequality, the rise of Islamism in Egypt and the writings of prominent Islamist thinkers who spoke negatively about Christianity (such as Sayyid Qutb) antagonized the Copts, who saw in this the roots of political vegetation and second class citizenship.


    The arrival of Anwar as-Sadat to the presidency following the death of Gamal Abdel Nasser in 1970 coincided with the ordination of the dynamic and charismatic Pope Shenouda III as the 117th successor to St. Mark a year later. The Islamist policies of Anwar as-Sadat antagonized the Copts and exacerbated religious tensions that continue to the present. In Egypt, a low intensity assault against Copts has been advancing for the past thirty years. Islamists equipped with medieval religious zeal (such as jihad) and coming from marginalized and poverty-stricken societal strata, have been involved in frequent bloody attacks against their Christian compatriots. The most recent major attack occurred in January 2000 in the village of Al-Kosheh in southern Egypt, in which twenty Copts lost their lives.
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    Poloctial corectness sucks.

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