The Way of the Samurai [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

God subo, your post death psuedo-confessions confused me.

[Chimpyang]

Secura : Check the quote out, if you get stuck the answer is in the spoiler:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The quote is by Antonin Dvorak, although not copied word for word, the message is sent as though it had been typed as a QWERTY layout but with a DVORAK keyboard input, not so much historical Japanese, but something I thought was cool when looking for other Japanese ciphers to use! Obviously, I used a webpage to do the converting for me. The second message is really just a confirmation that I considered Autolycus to be a major suspect.

Regarding the game: I knew it was messy, but I sent 2 sets of information around. To the Vig (turned out Mafia) group I was in, I sent misinformation about my strength, the only verifiable aspect of my character, claiming 2 to everyone else, and the replied I got I also presumed to most likely be misinformation too, Autolycus claimed a 3, CH a 2 and Beskar never sent his around. I didn't really trust Autolycus at any point, since anyone starting a vig group is instantly suspicious, but decided to play along to see what targets were up for discussion and that I might be able to collate information, especially when any targets had dubious reasoning for targetting.

Since there was a character all of the town knew that we could trust, I sent my real strength rating to Pevergreen, Secura claimed to have received information from ATPG and apparently indirectly from Pevergreen with the wrong information about my strength, so I knew someone else was also disclosing information about this highly suspicious group. Since it was looking like that I had somehow promoted myself to be #1 lynch target, I had to get all of the info I had gathered out there, so I gambled and passed it all to Secura - but left it in a cipher (gotta make them work for the info somehow! ).

[Diamondeye]

Good job, team. Except my lynch

[Reenk Roink]

Thank you for hosting Beefy I like the completely useless nature of voting/dueling due to pever mechanic.

Beefy: The game was good, but my tactic combined with my role made the town unbeatable.

Yeah, but this experiment will make the sequel the best ever! Technically you didn't have to make full use of your power to win this like this. But thanks for letting us run around for a couple of rounds before bringing it in.

Csargo was my right hand man, I knew him to be innocent from the start. I was meant to be able to choose, but Beefy forgot, so Reenk wasn't Kitou.

Biggest regret of the game. Csar was probably #2 on the list anyway, so that helps.

Good job, team. Except my lynch

Well, you verbally threatened me in the thread. Retaliation (too bad about Yaro, pever you could have had him killed at the end while accomplishing what you wanted also you know... ). By the way, I wish you guys had attacked, I had Csar's and s&b's protection that night.

By the way, despite all the whining about pever and I, I basically had two PMs exchanged with pever until after Secura exploded, and they were along the lines of "You have some use for Sasaki at the moment?" for the first and "sucks that I'm not your right hand man, btw I killed Atpg" for the second.

[Beskar]

Wait... who won?

[autolycus]

All living innocents. Glenn and I attacked csargo, a bunch of folks attacked glenn, and sasaki attacked me. These got amalgamated for reasons I don't understand, and glenn and I died. Since I was the only remaining original scum, this ended the game.

[autolycus]

wait, Beefy, how much strength actually was protecting you that last night?

[Yaropolk]

too bad about Yaro, pever you could have had him killed at the end while accomplishing what you wanted also you know... ).

I had a defense group set up last night but pever promised to murderize you if you killed me, so I played nice instead.

To diamondeye - sorry I had to set you up but better to be a live fox than a dead rat!

[Secura]

until after Secura exploded

It was glorious. :>

[Skooma Addict]

Good job, team. Except my lynch

It was unfortunately a necessary evil. You should have just walked away my friend. Walked away and forgotten what you had heard. But no, you preferred to be a dead hero then a living legend...

Sake Addict is just happy he survived this whole ordeal.

[Reenk Roink]

It was glorious. :>

Definitely , the gameplay of the players was pretty boring until that moment. I wish pever had allowed the entire situation to wrap up before stepping in and closing the door on the game.

[Romanic]

I don't have much to say about the game, considering I was the day 1 lynch, and missed a lot of what happened behind the scenes.

I can't believe that I protected Lord of Lent on day 1, was lynched instead, and he was mafia

I was such a failure, bury me with the common folk, or better, let me rot in the sun.

Thanks for the game Beefy! It was fun to... read.

[Beefy187]

wait, Beefy, how much strength actually was protecting you that last night?

Hmm? What do you mean?
autolycus (5), Glenn (1) vs Csargo (5), Sasaki (5), Skooma (1)

Sorry the game confused everyone. Assuming the battles takes places simulatenously, the town side clearly won the battle.Also pever was on to you anyway, with his lynching ability he would've nailed you.

@Yaro. I was planning to give you one. Thats another thing I stuffed up

[autolycus]

Why do battles take place simultaneously and merged? The opening post said all attacks on one person go up against all defenses on that person. Loser dies. This is the way I interpreted it:
So I read that as 3 battles. The battle for csargo's live, the battle for Glenn's life, and the battle for my life.
Attackers of csargo: me (5) + Glenn (1)= 6
Defenders of csargo: csargo (5)
We win, csargo dies

Attackers of Glenn: Skooma(3)
Defenders of Glenn: Glenn (1)
Skooma wins, Glenn dies.

Attackers of me: Sasaki (5)
Defenders of me: Me (5)
Tie, no one dies.

What would have happened if Glenn had defended me, rather than attacking with me, for example?
In my interpretation, that would become:
Attackers of csargo: me (5)
Defenders of csargo: csargo (5)
We tie, no one dies

Attackers of Glenn: Skooma(3)
Defenders of Glenn: Glenn (1)
Skooma wins, Glenn dies.

Attackers of me: Sasaki (5)
Defenders of me: Me (5) + csargo (1)
We win, Sasaki dies.

If I attack someone, and someone else attacks me, are you saying that the effect is the same if a third party defends me or attacks the same target as me?


You're right that it doesn't matter much, there's no way I won this.

[Beefy187]

Why do battles take place simultaneously and merged? The opening post said all attacks on one person go up against all defenses on that person. Loser dies. This is the way I interpreted it:
So I read that as 3 battles. The battle for csargo's live, the battle for Glenn's life, and the battle for my life.
Attackers of csargo: me (5) + Glenn (1)= 6
Defenders of csargo: csargo (5)
We win, csargo dies

Attackers of Glenn: Skooma(3)
Defenders of Glenn: Glenn (1)
Skooma wins, Glenn dies.

Attackers of me: Sasaki (5)
Defenders of me: Me (5)
Tie, no one dies.

What would have happened if Glenn had defended me, rather than attacking with me, for example?
In my interpretation, that would become:
Attackers of csargo: me (5)
Defenders of csargo: csargo (5)
We tie, no one dies

Attackers of Glenn: Skooma(3)
Defenders of Glenn: Glenn (1)
Skooma wins, Glenn dies.

Attackers of me: Sasaki (5)
Defenders of me: Me (5) + csargo (1)
We win, Sasaki dies.

If I attack someone, and someone else attacks me, are you saying that the effect is the same if a third party defends me or attacks the same target as me?


You're right that it doesn't matter much, there's no way I won this.

True I did say that didn't I... My apologies.

[Romanic]

I'm lost. Do I have this right?

Mafia (3) : autolycus, Lord of Lent and Glenn (recruited).
Neutrals (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, Yaropolk.
Town (22): everyone else.

Still alive (12) : Beskar, Csargo, Nightbringer, pevergreen, Reenk Roink, Sasaki, Secura, Seon, Skooma, slashandburn, Yaropolk, YLC.

? - I read that Csargo died, but he seems alive in the last writeup.

Winners - 9 or 12 ?
Living Town (9) : Beskar, Csargo, Nightbringer, pever, Reenk, Secura, Seon, Skooma, YLC.
Living Neutral (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, YLC.

Losers - 16 or 19?
Dead players (16) : ATPG, auto, Blackadder, Cecil, Chaotix, Chimpyang, classical, DE, Glenn, GE, Kage, Lord of Lent, Renata, robbie, Romanic, Subotan.
Living Neutral (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, YLC.

? - Did the neutral win with the Town?

Please validate Beefy, or anyone.

[autolycus]

I can validate that list of affiliations. As to whether csargo died, I think the answer should be yes, but in the end it's up to Beefy.

[slashandburn]

I switched to town affiliation so i won with town. Neutrals got a offer to join mafia, town, or remain neutral.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I switched to town affiliation so i won with town. Neutrals got a offer to join mafia, town, or remain neutral.

You made a serial killing pizzaguy proud.

[Beefy187]

I'm lost. Do I have this right?

Mafia (3) : autolycus, Lord of Lent and Glenn (recruited).
Neutrals (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, Yaropolk.
Town (22): everyone else.

Still alive (12) : Beskar, Csargo, Nightbringer, pevergreen, Reenk Roink, Sasaki, Secura, Seon, Skooma, slashandburn, Yaropolk, YLC.

? - I read that Csargo died, but he seems alive in the last writeup.

Winners - 9 or 12 ?
Living Town (9) : Beskar, Csargo, Nightbringer, pever, Reenk, Secura, Seon, Skooma, YLC.
Living Neutral (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, YLC.

Losers - 16 or 19?
Dead players (16) : ATPG, auto, Blackadder, Cecil, Chaotix, Chimpyang, classical, DE, Glenn, GE, Kage, Lord of Lent, Renata, robbie, Romanic, Subotan.
Living Neutral (3) : Sasaki, slashandburn, YLC.

? - Did the neutral win with the Town?

Please validate Beefy, or anyone.

Neutrals won with the town
Reason why I had the dead lose the game is so that they had more motivation to join the mafia. Especially if Naritsugu was swinging around lynches.

IIRC the mafia and Glenn came the last place, dead town second last, and everyone else is tied on first.

[classical_hero]

When I saw that Chimpyang and then myself get killed in two night in a row I knew it either had to be auto or Beskar that was scum due to the fact that people in the first vigilante group were starting to get knocked off. I just wasn't sure which one, though.

[Romanic]

Beefy, is Csargo still alive?

[Beefy187]

Csargo is still alive.