This Means War

[Furunculus]

You don't understand.

The prospect of US food being imposed on Europe IS the apocalyse to me. It IS the end of the world. American food already is a hellish concoction of madmen, to be forcefed that is the end of European civilisation.

See it is all a joke to Americans. Just some corn. To me, it is the beginning and end of everything, a nuclear missile aimed at the heart of my existence. I shall fight it to the bitter end, at least six weeks. I shall smash up a McDonalds in protest.

i'd make a glib comment about CAP, but it might be too close to the mark! :D

[Louis VI the Fat]

i'd make a glib comment about CAP, but it might be too close to the mark! :D

And how much does the USA export anyway. Not in my supermarket, all veggies come from the Eurozone and North Africa/Israel

What good fortune that the two of you posted these two posts just aftern one another.

There is a connection between them. Europe's long project of maintaining food independence preserves our sovereignity. We are not dependent on the Soviet Union / Russia for grain, nor dependent on north America, or Argentina and Brazil etc.

The CAP means that European agriculture is and has been preserved even in areas where, and in times when, it would be more profitable to just import food. With food prices now surpassing those of the 2008 crisis again, we should count ourselves lucky our supermarkets can supply themselves to a large extent with European food.

That is why one needs an agricultural policy. Why should this policy be pan-European? This is too further increase national sovereignity. For example, densely populated Britain is at liberty to convert large areas of its countryside into suburbs to increase the living conditions of its fast growing population, while still maintaing its agricultural independence through subsidising the preservation of agriculture in Ireland and France.


It's all so beautiful and we all gain so much.

[Strike For The South]

Not surprised the US has been beholden to corporate interests for a while

That's why we're fat and fighting 2 wars

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Not surprised the US has been beholden to corporate interests for a while

That's why we're fat and fighting 2 wars

Are you conducting seances with Smedley Butler? I have heard this theme before....


Though to be fair it has a deal of truth to it, and that truth is why we can't have Smith's impartial "invisible hand."

[Greyblades]

That's why we're fat and fighting 2 wars

Well one war and one manhunt. And that one war isnt over only because ending it and withdrawing would cause the occupied country to collapse.

[rory_20_uk]

What good fortune that the two of you posted these two posts just aftern one another.

There is a connection between them. Europe's long project of maintaining food independence preserves our sovereignity. We are not dependent on the Soviet Union / Russia for grain, nor dependent on north America, or Argentina and Brazil etc.

The CAP means that European agriculture is and has been preserved even in areas where, and in times when, it would be more profitable to just import food. With food prices now surpassing those of the 2008 crisis again, we should count ourselves lucky our supermarkets can supply themselves to a large extent with European food.

That is why one needs an agricultural policy. Why should this policy be pan-European? This is too further increase national sovereignity. For example, densely populated Britain is at liberty to convert large areas of its countryside into suburbs to increase the living conditions of its fast growing population, while still maintaing its agricultural independence through subsidising the preservation of agriculture in Ireland and France.


It's all so beautiful and we all gain so much.

CAP is increasinly spent on preserving the countryside, not on preserving food production. Hence then end of the milk lake / butter mountain etc etc.

It is used for such things as keeping alive the archaic and inefficient practices in many countries such as France, which if this were for food sovereignty would be pushing ahead for increasing efficiencies.

You're just trying to justify a subsidy to France and aren't going to look to closely at what this entails.

[Louis VI the Fat]

CAP is increasinly spent on preserving the countryside, not on preserving food production. Hence then end of the milk lake / butter mountain etc etc.

It is used for such things as keeping alive the archaic and inefficient practices in many countries such as France, which if this were for food sovereignty would be pushing ahead for increasing efficiencies.

You're just trying to justify a subsidy to France and aren't going to look to closely at what this entails.

Quit whinging and just pay up you stingy Brit.

Cotton shirts / cotton sheets...

My money's on some courgettes...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Quit whinging and just pay up you stingy Brit.

Sure, you going to buy our superior beef now?