Ice, Ice Baby no more!

[Vuk]

They are actually poorly treated in Hungary but mostly agreed. Know a few on the camping where a friend of me lives, really friendly and hospitable people, you'll have a blast with them. But they don't seem to understand the concepts 'property' and 'theft' all too much

Yes, and that is why I say that they are disruptive to society. One of the people at my school was a half Gypsy and I could tell that people treated her differently, but it is the Gypsies who form their own reputation. You have to obey the law of the land that you are in, that is not too much to ask for.

[Strike For The South]

Yes, and that is why I say that they are disruptive to society. One of the people at my school was a half black and I could tell that people treated her differently, but it is the blacks who form their own reputation. You have to obey the law of the land that you are in, that is not too much to ask for.

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All of Eastern Europe needs to be leveled, at which point we can send some Germans in, they are a clean industrious people

[Fragony]

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All of Eastern Europe needs to be leveled, at which point we can send some Germans in, they are a clean industrious people

And removed by moderator can project it on the USA and blacks all you want but it's European affairs, aka different problems. The problem being over a million really poor and undeveloped people travelling west. thx eu

[Strike For The South]

removed by moderator, can project it on the USA and blacks all you want but it's European affairs, aka different problems. The problem being over a million really poor and undeveloped people travelling west. thx eu

Yea Europe and undrepresented minority groups which span national borders have such a rich and tolerant history

I'm sure it'll work itself out

[Fragony]

Yea Europe and undrepresented minority groups which span national borders have such a rich and tolerant history

Saying what, yeah it doesn't get any sicker than European history, but you should know that you are part of it after all it's in your very genes, an accumulating of centuries of mindless violence and pityless cruelty.

But it's still a bad idea though

[Strike For The South]

Saying what, yeah it doesn't get any sicker than European history, but you should know that you are part of it after all it's in your very genes, an accumulating of centuries of mindless violence and pityless cruelty.

But it's still a bad idea though

My genes? lol. My ansectors were quakers when they were kicked out of jolly old. Granted they then killed an uncountable number of natives but we're pretty sure they shot first.

[Fragony]

My genes? lol. My ansectors were quakers when they were kicked out of jolly old. Granted they then killed an uncountable number of natives but we're pretty sure they shot first.

K, nano's then. But it's really a problem, Belgium was nice enough to have the most rediculous immigration-laws in human history so it's their problem for a while, but I wouldn't take it too lightly overall.

[Vuk]

Thinking is not one of your strong points


All of Eastern Europe needs to be leveled, at which point we can send some Germans in, they are a clean industrious people

removed by moderator. Let me just point out that A. You have no idea at all what you are talking about, as the situation of Blacks in America (most of whom were brought over as slaves) and the situation of Gypsies in Europe (who migrated Westward from India are completely different, and B. I was not referring to race, but culture. I know that you love to play the race card, but get a life.
The fact of the matter is that Gypsies are living as minorities in countries that already have established cultural values and laws, and if they want to live there, they will need to do as other immigrants do and respect those laws and values. That does not mean that they have to give up their culture, change the dress habits, or anything like that. They just have to start being lawful citizens who contribute to a society instead of destroying it.
I do not think that their opportunities to succeed should be limited (as that would be counter productive), but I do think that their opportunities to be a bunch of criminal refuse should.

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[Strike For The South]

removed. Let me just point out that A. You have no idea at all what you are talking about, as the situation of Blacks in America (most of whom were brought over as slaves) and the situation of Gypsies in Europe (who migrated Westward from India are completely different, and B. I was not referring to race, but culture. I know that you love to play the race card, but get a life.
The fact of the matter is that Gypsies are living as minorities in countries that already have established cultural values and laws, and if they want to live there, they will need to do as other immigrants do and respect those laws and values. That does not mean that they have to give up their culture, change the dress habits, or anything like that. They just have to start being lawful citizens who contribute to a society instead of destroying it.
I do not think that their opportunities to succeed should be limited (as that would be counter productive), but I do think that their opportunities to be a bunch of criminal refuse should.

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Yes yes, the tired old cry of "BUT THIS MINORITY GROUP IS DIFFERENT"

I'm sure however long you spent as an exchange student is some eastern european hovel supercedes the entire historical record of interaction between majority-minority population groups

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm sure however long you spent as an exchange student is some eastern european hovel supercedes the entire historical record of interaction between majority-minority population groups

Which reminds me of the movie Eurotrip, in which a few Americans briefly find themselves in Eastern Europe too. In Bratislava, the...uh...capital of Hungary:

[Furunculus]

lol, apparently if the EC demands changes to hungary's media laws then it will have an immediate impact on the media laws in Germany, France and the Netherlands who all have similar legal strictures:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/charl...arys_media_law

:D

[HoreTore]

lol, apparently if the EC demands changes to hungary's media laws then it will have an immediate impact on the media laws in Germany, France and the Netherlands who all have similar legal strictures:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/charl...arys_media_law

:D

I was unaware that the ruling parties of Germany, France and the Netherlands assign party comrades to work with journalists i opposition to the current regime.

And by similar, do you perhaps by any chance mean "completely different"?

[Furunculus]

I was unaware that the ruling parties of Germany, France and the Netherlands assign party comrades to work with journalists i opposition to the current regime.

And by similar, do you perhaps by any chance mean "completely different"?

i'm not a lawyer to understand the intricate ins and outs of the comparitive media laws of those countries, so i'm not in a position to explain why the economist is wrong to report this 'allegation', perhaps you would be so good as to enlighten me..........?

[HoreTore]

Uhm, the economist reported the Hungarian PM claiming that. the economist didn't touch the comment.

Understandably.

[Furunculus]

granted, i wasn't just going to be so blase as to write off the allegation. it's not as if i like hungary's ridiculous laws.

[HoreTore]

An easy way to check the truth in that statement, would be to turn on a german, french or dutch radio station right now and see if they're playing any hip hop....

I'm betting 10 dollars they are.