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    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
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    Default Why Progressvism Has Failed

    Because the deliviery system is all wrong

    When America thinks libreal they think one of two things

    1. Some bonged out hippie who cares about nothing past his own hedonism and narcissim

    2. The classic Ivory tower

    Why has America formulated this carciture? Why can't the progressive ever be on the side of the working man

    How has a party completly beholden to buisness interests not only convinced us they are on our side but that there crippling pro coroprate pro big buisness policies will help us.

    Why does spending money on things like education and helathcare make me a socialist demagouge who wakes up every morning and craps on the constitution

    America has insulated itself from a whole spectrum of political debate because somewhere along the line someone convinced us what was America and to deviate from said example is tantamount to treason

    I blame the cold war, there was no time to formulate anything. The Russians could invade at any moment

    My family is your typical American family, if this were the 50s they would be card carrying Ds but today even though they hold many positions that align them with the Dems they can't vote for them becuase they are socialists.

    Listen, I still love my guns, and I still hate wanton taxation with a complete disregard for anything

    But when the orginator of the tea patry is saved by medicare and sees no dissconnect THERE IS SOMETHING TERRIBLY WRONG
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    Default Re: Why Progressvism Has Failed

    Pretty much.

    Isn't that what we Europinkosissycommies have been saying the whole time?


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    Default Re: Why Progressvism Has Failed

    Progressivism (unfortunately) has not failed; one only needs to look to the White House to see its startling success.

    The Democratic failure in the 2010 midterm election, which is what I believe you are really referring to, was the result of abrasive personalities, off-putting political maneuvering, and real and perceived incompetence over the economy and other issues - not ideology.

    If the Democrats had gotten America back on the "right track", then most Americans would have had no problem accepting progressive policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Progressivism (unfortunately) has not failed; one only needs to look to the White House to see its startling success.

    The Democratic failure in the 2010 midterm election, which is what I believe you are really referring to, was the result of abrasive personalities, off-putting political maneuvering, and real and perceived incompetence over the economy and other issues - not ideology.

    If the Democrats had gotten America back on the "right track", then most Americans would have had no problem accepting progressive policies.
    This of course is completely disconnected from reality just as much as the Tea Party leader is. For the most part, progressive policies are long term policies meant to harvest in decades to come. Public subsidized education isn't an instant boost for an economy but is supposed to bolster it with much more educated and capable workers and innovators in the future AKA our children's children. That kind of thinking doesn't sit well with many people though who want results immediately. Health care reform isn't even taking full effect until 2014 according to provisions in the bill and yet all the conservatives start screaming how it has already failed and want to repeal it. I'm sorry PJ, but you really have little to go on here since your side is so ideological that it can't stand giving the other side a fair chance to see if their policies work in the long term as predicted.


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    Default Re: Why Progressvism Has Failed

    Spending money on education can be an investment... but there is no international correlation between money spent and results. In the UK money has been thrown at Education, yet there are not the projected results.

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    Default Re: Why Progressvism Has Failed

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Spending money on education can be an investment... but there is no international correlation between money spent and results. In the UK money has been thrown at Education, yet there are not the projected results.

    If the Tea Party had their way, it would only be private schools. The point is that public education is progressive and it worked because people gave it a chance and now it is recognized as the best way to make something of yourself in "you can make it anywhere" America. Progressive policy made the American dream come true.


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    Default Re: Why Progressvism Has Failed

    You haz a sucky media -and it's not just Fox.

    Anyway, it's not really like the Dems ARE socialists -they are as right wing and business focussed as the average European center-right party. Probably is partly a cold-war hang-up.

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