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    Default Re: Western foreign policy, when push comes to shove: Democracy sacrificed for Stabil

    and you're wrong, the west supported the islamic revolutionaries over the shah
    You're thinking of the Iran-contra affair, aren't you? My point was that initially, the west supported the Shah. Only when the situation became unbearable they decided to retract support.

    and you're wrong, the west supported the islamic revolutionaries over the shah, who was actually worse, and they do export terror, the shia aligned revolts in the arabian peninsula, and hizbollah in lebanon is apparent, they aim to create an unfavourable environment for a whole lot of folks, and there is little reason to believe the IRI's interest in the welfare of shia minories, let alone the region is well intentioned.
    But the Shi'i government isn't interested at all in creating a world-wide Shi'a Islamic empire or anything to that extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    You're thinking of the Iran-contra affair, aren't you? My point was that initially, the west supported the Shah. Only when the situation became unbearable they decided to retract support.



    But the Shi'i government isn't interested at all in creating a world-wide Shi'a Islamic empire or anything to that extent.
    Its not really hegemony, its simply a buffer to throw the US off whatever it is iranian interests are. My point is to highlight why its such an unhealthy endeavor iran is pursuing already, since these are US aligned countries, they're basically putting minorities in the peninsula in harms way to protect or serve their interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leet Eriksson View Post
    Its not really hegemony, its simply a buffer to throw the US off whatever it is iranian interests are. My point is to highlight why its such an unhealthy endeavor iran is pursuing already, since these are US aligned countries, they're basically putting minorities in the peninsula in harms way to protect or serve their interests.
    America would never do that!

    THE KURDS ARE A GOOD PEOPLE, well they weren't when we gave Saddam the weapons to gas them in the 80s but they were in the 90s when we didn't like Saddam

    If people ever stopped and looked at Americas track recored throughout the past 40 years every congressmen would be dead tommorow

    I realize that holding America up to an abtairy perfection standard is stupid and idealisitc but If I could set the over at 3 for "ruthless dictators we give weapons to" per decade would that be to much to ask?
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