Order Of The Stick Mafia [Concluded]

[PershsNhpios]

Right, now I can see your post in a different light.

Yes what you say makes sense but of course all theories similar to yours tend to fall short when faced with inactivity, which I think is the problem here.

If I were to pick the scummiest player so far I would say Romanic, and yet Romanic has appeared scum-like to me in three games successively now, and I am starting to wonder if he is just natively anti-town in his style.

Maybe something will rear it's head in the next 10 hours.

[Renata]

You can vote me. I keep killing Romanic, like three games in the past few weeks. Okay, I was mafia in two of them. But still.

vote: Cecil

[Romanic]

Let's shuffle some votes and see what happens?

unvote, vote: YLC

[Romanic]

If I were to pick the scummiest player so far I would say Romanic, and yet Romanic has appeared scum-like to me in three games successively now, and I am starting to wonder if he is just natively anti-town in his style.

*rofl*

Why do you find me scummy?

Again, just like in CoV, you are throwing accusations without saying why. What a shame that you are still alive in that game, so I cannot figure if that behavior is Scummy Glenn or Town Glenn.

My posts so far, before that "accusation", are not exactly full of scumtells I believe. Let's check them together, shall we?

vote: Seon

I never read the Order of the Stick comics before. Those are awesome! I can't stop reading them now!

So, how do you figure me as "the scummiest player so far", from these posts only?

I want an explanation. Throwing suspicions without backing your words, is scummy.

[Romanic]

Actually, if someone feels like it, I wouldn't mind pressuring, and even lynch Glenn, immediately, but I feel that my vote is more useful on YLC. If someone votes for Glenn, I will switch immediately. If 2 players vote Glenn, I'll throw in a little jig.

[ULC]

Vote: Glenn

[Romanic]

Although it makes me uneasy that YLC is the one voting Glenn, I will stick to my words.

unvote, vote: Glenn

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nice timing of course, but it seems that we also arrived at such a conclusion via speaking privately. Didn't even see your post until YLC pointed it out to me.

I kind of agree, because of the following best-case-I-can-think-of-day-one:

No one seemed to care if Winston or Seon got lynched, except Glenn. No one seemed to care if Cecil got lynched. Glenn's the only one who seems to be paying close attention to the first round voting, and who is getting lynched.

It might indicate apprehension.

I think tactically it's the better move. But really, this is still a shot in the dark.

unvote, vote: Glenn

[Romanic]

I promised a little jig.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know it's really sad when caring about the game is a sign of scummery.

My opinion of townies in general is at an all-time low. Help me reverse that.

[Romanic]

I hear you. The Town has not won in the last 8 games, since ATPG mafia. It's time to reverse this trend.

[Romanic]

Nice timing of course, but it seems that we also arrived at such a conclusion via speaking privately. Didn't even see your post until YLC pointed it out to me.

I kind of agree, because of the following best-case-I-can-think-of-day-one:

No one seemed to care if Winston or Seon got lynched, except Glenn. No one seemed to care if Cecil got lynched. Glenn's the only one who seems to be paying close attention to the first round voting, and who is getting lynched.

It might indicate apprehension.

I think tactically it's the better move. But really, this is still a shot in the dark.

unvote, vote: Glenn

I had time to think while I was away, and I want to come back to this post.

I am assuming that by "speaking privately" you mean, YLC and you. If not, please correct me.

If you are openly admitting private talks with YLC to lynch Glenn, that means you two are probably not both mafia, or that would giving away a big clue, so I am interested to know how this conversation started. Who talked first? Who suggested that Glenn is suspect?

I think that revealing this info is important because it could be an attempt to save the leading candidate (Cecil at the time), or it could be the mafia trying to manipulate the tally (YLC with 2 votes was getting scared maybe ). Anyway, we need more details before one of you two dies.

You know it's really sad when caring about the game is a sign of scummery.

My opinion of townies in general is at an all-time low. Help me reverse that.

Well, I am not voting for Glenn because he's "caring about the game". You might be... but that's not how I understood your vote the first time. It seemed you were voting Glenn because he pushed WH ahead of the tally, thus appearing to care about who was being lynched (at the time, Cecil, who was tied at 2-2 with WH).

Caring about the game should never be a scum tell, or our games will turn into lurking crapshoots.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I had time to think while I was away, and I want to come back to this post.

I am assuming that by "speaking privately" you mean, YLC and you. If not, please correct me

Yes, and God Emperor, actually.

If you are openly admitting private talks with YLC to lynch Glenn, that means you two are probably not both mafia, or that would giving away a big clue, so I am interested to know how this conversation started. Who talked first? Who suggested that Glenn is suspect?

I was talking to YLC and God Emperor and pevergreen about my car getting stolen, in one chat. That's how the convo got started; why them was because they were the only ones online at the time and I needed to vent about my RL frustration with humanity and talk my way through the headache.

After that, I noticed YLC hadn't voted yet and so I prompted him to do so; he said he didn't know who to vote for and I explained I thought the current vote setup smelled of being good for the mafia as the vote was close, and it was sitting that way for a long time. Mafia tend to react before the round is over (this early in the game anyway) to save a scum buddy by getting a new suspect out there. The limited, if any, activity in-thread indicated to me that the mafia were happy with the current lynch choices.

We mulled the candidates and thought Glenn deserved pressure, I agreed because it was someone different and unexpected and Glenn has been focused on the game whereas the townies don't seem to be.

I think that revealing this info is important because it could be an attempt to save the leading candidate (Cecil at the time), or it could be the mafia trying to manipulate the tally (YLC with 2 votes was getting scared maybe ). Anyway, we need more details before one of you two dies.

YLC probably wouldn't have even noticed he had 2 votes until I told him. He wasn't even going to vote this round.

I would bet my head that YLC is innocent. This is how he behaves as townie; he cares a lot more when he's mafia, and act aggressively. He waits things out and tries to vote carefully as town, at least in the early game.

Well, I am not voting for Glenn because he's "caring about the game". You might be... but that's not how I understood your vote the first time. It seemed you were voting Glenn because he pushed WH ahead of the tally, thus appearing to care about who was being lynched (at the time, Cecil, who was tied at 2-2 with WH).

That's what I mean, essentially.

Giving a darn about the outcome of the round = caring about the game.

All the other players seemed rather apathetic about who got lynched.

Caring about the game should never be a scum tell, or our games will turn into lurking crapshoots.

Still, the fun-ness or not-fun-ness of the result shouldn't affect the validity of the logic.

[Diamondeye]

Day 1 is over!
Let's lynch someone!

The day passed rather quietly; Lord Hinjo seemed a bit disappointed at the lack of dedication to the quest that laid ahead of them, and the self-sufficient and unempathic air of the player characters. "Well," he thought as he tallied the votes up at the end of day, "I hope they will realize now what a grave situation this is."

The denizens all gathered in front of Hinjo in the Throne Room; While he had already been coroned the new Lord of the city, he denied seating himself in the throne until the villains were caught. It was not a time of rest, it was a time of action.

With resolution in his voice, he stepped forward, and as the room fell silent and everyone looked at him in anticipation, he started: "First of all, I would like to say that there are a few of you that have been entirely too silent today, and have not even voted. You are not contributing in the search for the culprits; If you have not spoken up by sundown tomorrow, you are to be executed alongside whoever we deem guilty. That is to say, unless we can end this right here..."

There was a collective gasp as Hinjo looked down at the records of the votes for the day. He looked back up and called out in a loud voice. "Haley Starshine, please come forward."
There was a shuffle in the back of the crowd. No-one stepped forward.

"Do not make us give chase, Haley. There is nowhere to run, and you know it. We will give you a nice, clean death, and your corpse will be stored so you can be ressurrected if you are found innocent."
For some reason, this didn't sound too reassuring, but nevertheless, Glenn stepped forward, her head heavy against her chest. She stopped in front of Hinjo.

"Kneel."
A moment passed in lethal silence. Then Haley knelt, slow and insecure. "But... I... I'm innocent. And what about Elan, my love..."
She looked back into the crowd, her eyes blind with tears. Softly, Hinjo turned her head back and lifted her ponytail off her neck. "In the name of justice!"

The hall fell grimly silent as Haley's head hit the floor with a hollow thump. Somewhere in the small crowd, Elan cried out in anguish, but was restrained by faceless figures besides him.

Hinjo looked at the others.
"Pray that we catch the culprits soon, that we will not have reason to bereave any more sore hearts."

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Glenn was Haley Starshine of the Order of the Stick!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

She was innocent!

Glenn: 4 (AskThePizzaGuy, Robbiecon, Romanic, YLC)
Winston Hughes: 3 (Autolycus, Beskar, Glenn)
Cecil XIX: 2 (Renata, Secura)
YLC, Romanic, Double A, Seon, AskThePizzaGuy: 1 (God Emperor; pevergreen; Seon; Double A; Winston Hughes)

Not voting: Captain Blackadder, Cecil XIX, Yaropolk

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