complaints for nothing, beeps for free

[Moros]

So after one single letter on how the song 'money for nothing' by the dire strait would be offensive towards gay people, the song got banned in Canada.

linkies:

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment...waves-on-radio

http://www.rockaaa.com/news/money-fo...r-release-1821

Personally I think this is just ludicrous. Except for the fact that the song is everything but insulting towards gays, there are many songs with overly violent or sexual content that remain uncensored. Not that I'm pro censoring that either.

Anyway I was curious to what you guys think about this case and censoring music and other media in general. Do you approve of censoring or are you against it? What standards should be used for censoring and how should a censoring system work?

[gaelic cowboy]

Hmm i thinks it's a bit silly myself but see the lyrics for yourself below

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that’s his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he’s a millionaire)

[Louis VI the Fat]

Hmm i thinks it's a bit silly myself but see the lyrics for yourself below

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

(See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that’s his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot he’s a millionaire)

That sounds like Freddy pulling the finger at homophobes.

I think that text will make our resident homos like Dave feel proud.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Canadian Censorship, eh?



I'm against it. This is ridiculous.

The CBSC edict, prompted by a sole complaint from a Newfoundland listener (identified as a member of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered community) is troubling, says LeBlanc, especially in light of the word's context in Mark Knopfler's song.

“This sets an alarming precedent, because this song is clearly not about name-calling,” he notes. “It was almost making fun of a redneck character” who speaks the offending word. “To me, the fine line should be, ‘Is there hatred intended here?' And it's clearly, ‘No.' ”

CR

[Shibumi]

I think all kinds of censorship is utter bullocks.

If one does not like the message, do not buy it. It should be as easy as that.

[Fragony]

gawd, there goes my respect for Canada, joins the ranks of the UK and Sweden as creepy thought police-states

[Fisherking]

Well, someone with a persecution complex complained. One person complained.

And the Canadian Bureaucracy showed their caring nature by banning one of the most popular songs of the 1980.... I guess they figure better late than never.

If you fallow the link: http://www.4shared.com/audio/BzMidp7...Drinkin_S.html


You will hear a song that was taken off air in the US by request from high officals. Guess Who?
It was 1982.

[Andres]

Sometimes, smiley says it all :

What else can one do when confronted with sheer stupidity?

[Hax]

Has it come to this?

Wake up from your slumber, Québec, it is time to secede!



Vive le Québec! Where the legal drinking age is just a suggestión.

[Ronin]

The song is actually poking fun at the "character" that uses the word.

anyway...censorship is faggotry!

[The Stranger]

gay song.

[Moros]

gay song.

Yes it always makes me gay as well.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Are they banning it or just bleeping the word? Because that seems no different than bleeping out the n-word, etc. In other words, what makes this particular case notable and distinct from the broader debate about censoring words on the radio?

[Fisherking]

I think the cut a new version of the song without that verse.

[HoreTore]

That sounds like Freddy pulling the finger at homophobes.

What if it wasn't?

What if Dire Straits released an actual gay-bashing song?

[Peasant Phill]

Then the Dire Straits probably wouldn't be as popular as they are now.

[miotas]

Anyone who has listened to the song knows that the people being insulted are in fact the Dire Straits themselves.

This music video makes it blatantly obvious, relevant part is at 1:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0&ob=av2el

[Vladimir]

That's funny. Should be NOTW though.

[Fisherking]

What if it wasn't?

What if Dire Straits released an actual gay-bashing song?

Does this mean you think the song is insulting to gays rather than to rednecks or do you just support censorship on principle?

[Andres]

Why should certain words be bleeped out anyway?

[Fragony]

Why should certain words be bleeped out anyway?

Why should certain posts be moderated? But this is beyond silly I can't stand whiners with surface to shoesole toes, taking offence as a hobby.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I am glad this song was censored, since redneckophobia is disgusting.

[Paltmull]

gawd, there goes my respect for Canada, joins the ranks of the UK and Sweden as creepy thought police-states

Offtopic, i know, but are you talking about the FRA- law? Even though I'm heavily against it, I think it might sometimes be portrayed as a bit worse than it actually is. What this Wikipedia Article says is for example completely false. The state is not allowed to warrantlessly wiretap all telephone and Internet traffic. The original proposal was something like that (which of course is quite frightening), but due to heavy opposition it was altered quite a lot.

Ontopic: If Money For Nothing is actually offensive to homosexuals, how come it took 25 years before someone noticed it? I mean, come on! It's Dire Straits we're talking about here. They've gotta be the least offensive rock band ever to have existed.

[Fisherking]

Ontopic: If Money For Nothing is actually offensive to homosexuals, how come it took 25 years before someone noticed it? I mean, come on! It's Dire Straits we're talking about here. They've gotta be the least offensive rock band ever to have existed.

Right!

And in 25 years they have had a total of 1 complaint.

Doesn’t that show you how wonderfully sensitive and feeling Canada is?

I think they need drug testing actually...like to know what those people were on.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ontopic: If Money For Nothing is actually offensive to homosexuals, how come it took 25 years before someone noticed it? I mean, come on! It's Dire Straits we're talking about here. They've gotta be the least offensive rock band ever to have existed.

But this is still offtopic

The topic is, as Andres said, "Should obscene/etc words be bleeped".

[Fisherking]

Okay

Beep no the beeping words shouldn’t be beeping beeped.

[Devastatin Dave]

I don't see what's so offensive. The little faggot with the ear ring and the make-up had a jet plane, nice hair, and lots of money. Of all my years "serving" truckers at my local truck stop I've yet to have it as good as that little faggot. I guess I need more make up and put my ear ring in again. Will i get banned in Cananda?

[Andres]

But this is still offtopic

The topic is, as Andres said, "Should obscene/etc words be bleeped".

A firm "no".

Many people always go crazy when there is but a simple hint of something that resembles something that could limit freedom of speech and expression, yet, apparently, allmost everybody happily accepts the bleeping out in songs or television shows of words like, oh the irony, and

While we're at it, covering a nipple with blots on television seems also utterly ridiculous to me. Or blotting out swear words on clothing of people who are interviewed or so.

[HoreTore]

Does this mean you think the song is insulting to gays rather than to rednecks or do you just support censorship on principle?

What I think?

I think you shouldn't try to ascertain my political stance based on open questions asked to further debate.

[Fragony]

Offtopic, i know, but are you talking about the FRA- law? Even though I'm heavily against it, I think it might sometimes be portrayed as a bit worse than it actually is. What this Wikipedia Article says is for example completely false. The state is not allowed to warrantlessly wiretap all telephone and Internet traffic. The original proposal was something like that (which of course is quite frightening), but due to heavy opposition it was altered quite a lot.

Ontopic: If Money For Nothing is actually offensive to homosexuals, how come it took 25 years before someone noticed it

Not as much, when it comes to privacy enfringment things are much worse here trust me, courtesy of a religiously insane christofacist that was minister of the justice department 'I can crush serpents and scorpions, I can arrest cartoonists, I am god' wikileaks says. Ernst Hirsch Ballin, or Hirschbollah as we call him. Evil guy