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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    It doesn't matter if the greenies are right or wrong on global warming Frag the problem with the "Water Crisis" is separate from it.

    Were increasing our depletion of natural water stores beyond the rate of renewal, we will literally have water water everywhere with not a drop to drink.
    Not a drop to drink. Sounds pretty apocalyptic, how are YOU going to educate your parents about water shortages?(!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not a drop to drink. Sounds pretty apocalyptic, how are YOU going to educate your parents about water shortages?(!)
    See your problem is that your limiting your thinking about water in terms of what comes out of the average kitchen tap my good man.

    The majority of the water on the planet is locked in natural stores like ice and oceans etc etc and this is mainly out of our abilltiy to use. Evaporation from the ocean or melting ice gives us water which falls on the land or flows down the mountain to fill the streams and aquifers, we then take what we need for agriculture and industry.

    The more water we lock out of the cycle and the faster we use it the more likely we come to a place where billions upon billions of gallons of water is stored in oceans but is not evaporating fast enough to fill your domestic water tank. We could never use up all the water on the planet however we can use up all the water in the cycle which moves seawater from the ocean to the land as freshwater.

    hence water water everywhere but not a drop to drink
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    That is why we need to buy more SUV's, warms up the planet, evaporates water faster. Please, it's all bull. We have no control of such things. Durable energy is the biggest joke of all, to make even 10% of our energy 100%-ok we would have to mine the planet tenfold of what we do now, and there probably aren't even enough natural recources to begin with.

    @Horetore, look up the green crescent, Tigris rocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    That is why we need to buy more SUV's, warms up the planet, evaporates water faster. Please, it's all bull. We have no control of such things. Durable energy is the biggest joke of all, to make even 10% of our energy 100%-ok we would have to mine the planet tenfold of what we do now, and there probably aren't even enough natural recources to begin with.
    It seems like a reasonable assumption warmer planet means more water but the majority of evaporated water just falls back into the sea again.

    BTW I never said we have control over evaporation of water, I said were using the water moved from the oceans to the land faster and faster every day.
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    We have no control over such things? What the hell??

    How can we NOT have any control over it....?

    How can we not have any control over whether we allow the cotton or rose industry to use up all the fresh water? How can we not decide whether we want to build a dam?

    Edit: yes frags, Tigris rocks. But not if Turkey decides to dam all the rivers that creates Tigris, all of which are located in Turkish mountains.

    THAT is the source of the conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    We have no control over such things? What the hell??

    How can we NOT have any control over it....?
    Well I'll leave that question to social science

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Well I'll leave that question to social science
    Social science....?

    Hnestly frags, you don't think there's a source for conflict if, say, Tigris is dried up to produce electricity? You don't believe that there will be conflict when millions of people have their primary source of fresh water removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Social science....?

    Hnestly frags, you don't think there's a source for conflict if, say, Tigris is dried up to produce electricity? You don't believe that there will be conflict when millions of people have their primary source of fresh water removed?
    Wouldn't that be a pretty localised affair rather than a global problem, let's redirect the Eufrat anyway if they do, and pray no polar bears die in the process

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    Another problem is that millions of gallons of water falls as rain and snow in areas where no one lives.

    I live in the West of Ireland and it rains a lot but the east of the country can experience shortages as there are too many people using too much water. This has been caused basically by not charging for it and through underinvestment in water infrastructure.

    In rural areas most people pay for there water as they have to join a local scheme to pipe water to there house yet in urban areas they can get it for free and so they waste a lot of it.
    They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
    a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

    Have a read, frags, and start your education. The fourth largest fresh water lake in the world, now all but gone thanks to unsustainable agriculture.

    Though I won't be surprised if you believe its a hoax.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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