This is how backwards education in California is.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also I think it's ridiculous and sad that teachers in the US don't want to something extra after their hours. Though it sometimes gets silly over here, I can't believe the attitude of American teachers on this point.

The thing to remember about education in America is that no one respects teachers. And by that, I mean they don't get treated well as human beings. If a student fails, first thing a parent does is yell at the teacher (although this isn't the case most of the time, it happens a lot when you teach 4 classes with 35-40 kids each). When the public starts discussing the issues it always comes down to teacher salary. Even if it was a directed meeting towards a specific problem, someone always brings up the teachers as part of the problem, which cause resentment. Many teachers probably feel that the system and everyone in general is out to get them, which makes them unwilling to put in extra time for students since they won't get any perks or recognition for going beyond for others. Also, kids in America absolutely hate school from the time they are in 6th grade, and many act like ******** in class every single day, which is just rude for the teachers to go through all the time.

[Moros]

The thing to remember about education in America is that no one respects teachers. And by that, I mean they don't get treated well as human beings. If a student fails, first thing a parent does is yell at the teacher (although this isn't the case most of the time, it happens a lot when you teach 4 classes with 35-40 kids each). When the public starts discussing the issues it always comes down to teacher salary. Even if it was a directed meeting towards a specific problem, someone always brings up the teachers as part of the problem, which cause resentment. Many teachers probably feel that the system and everyone in general is out to get them, which makes them unwilling to put in extra time for students since they won't get any perks or recognition for going beyond for others. Also, kids in America absolutely hate school from the time they are in 6th grade, and many act like ******** in class every single day, which is just rude for the teachers to go through all the time.

Well that's a very wrong and unhealthy educational environment then.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Well that's a very wrong and unhealthy educational environment then.

Mhm, quoted for truth.

[a completely inoffensive name]

A Mathematician's Lament.

http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

[Moros]

A Mathematician's Lament.

http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

Long time since I read something like this. Thank you for such a great link. ~

[jabarto]

Well that's a very wrong and unhealthy educational environment then.

I've noticed this a lot with my history classes. Last semester I was in a US history class and every single day I would look in any direction and see someone with their hands under their desk texting. At least twice in the semester the teacher had to publicly call out students for talking during class and I really got the impression that only I and maybe two other people actually wanted to be there.

That's part of why I like to talk to my teachers after class. It just seems that so few people like history and I like to brighten their day a bit with my barely contained interest for the subject.