Hmmm - Wheels coming off Labour already (again).

**rory_20_uk** · 01-21-2011, 10:32

To be honest, good for Labour to get the real morons off the frontbench early on. There is some way to go on that. Labour also need to at some point have something approaching message besides "we'll spend any money we can lay our hands on and blow it on centralising every aspect of government we can", which isn't that catchy.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 11:44

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

Labour also need to at some point have something approaching message besides "we'll spend any money we can lay our hands on and blow it on centralising every aspect of government we can", which isn't that catchy.

and certain parts of labour know that new message is needed:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...f-England.html

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

By quoting this I turn Furunculus into a spoilsport who quoted the wrong post.

I confess I am lost Louis, can you explain?

**Greyblades** · 01-21-2011, 12:01

Interesting thing I heard on the radio this morning, apparantly those personal reasons might have something to do with the arrest of a policeman, its apparantly believed that said policeman, who had been assigned to protect alan johnson's family, was having an affair with allan's wife.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 12:06

interesting quote from John McTernan, Political Secretary to Tony Blair:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jo...las-alexander/

"Alexander lucidly exposed the Coalition’s hidden strategy to reshape British politics. Over time, he argued, Nick Clegg and his Lib Dem colleagues will prosecute the argument that they are the only effective vehicle to deliver Centre-left policies."

Labour is going to have to move fast, because Cameron is pushing the Lib-Dem's into position as the 'natural' party of the progressive left, and labours authoritarian and spendthrift ways are only aiding the transition.

**Beskar** · 01-21-2011, 12:44

Originally Posted by Furunculus

Labour is going to have to move fast, because Cameron is pushing the Lib-Dem's into position as the 'natural' party of the progressive left, and labours authoritarian and spendthrift ways are only aiding the transition.

Lib-dems have been the 'progressive left' party for a while, hence the large number of student and young voters, compared to labours traditional-left. Though problem is, lib-dems just lost a large core of their support in the tuition fees scandal.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 12:54

Originally Posted by Beskar

Lib-dems have been the 'progressive left' party for a while, hence the large number of student and young voters, compared to labours traditional-left. Though problem is, lib-dems just lost a large core of their support in the tuition fees scandal.

they'll acquire more as they become a party of government (i.e. adult) rather than a party of protest (i.e. hormonal adolescents), especially if labour goes against the zeitgeist that labour urinated the taxpaying publics cash up the wall, and then spent even more by borrowing over the top of the longest period of economic growth the modern British state has ever seen!

with balls as chancellor that will be a difficult narrative for poor milli to break, and it locks labour into exactly the cycle of failure that prevented the tories from winning for three terms.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 13:07

ooh, surprise surprise, the lib-dems burnish their lefty credentials and demand an independent lib-dem election fight in 2015:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ependent-party

watch out mili!