Hmmm - Wheels coming off Labour already (again).

**Greyblades** · 01-21-2011, 12:01

Interesting thing I heard on the radio this morning, apparantly those personal reasons might have something to do with the arrest of a policeman, its apparantly believed that said policeman, who had been assigned to protect alan johnson's family, was having an affair with allan's wife.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 12:06

interesting quote from John McTernan, Political Secretary to Tony Blair:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jo...las-alexander/

"Alexander lucidly exposed the Coalition’s hidden strategy to reshape British politics. Over time, he argued, Nick Clegg and his Lib Dem colleagues will prosecute the argument that they are the only effective vehicle to deliver Centre-left policies."

Labour is going to have to move fast, because Cameron is pushing the Lib-Dem's into position as the 'natural' party of the progressive left, and labours authoritarian and spendthrift ways are only aiding the transition.

**Beskar** · 01-21-2011, 12:44

Originally Posted by Furunculus

Labour is going to have to move fast, because Cameron is pushing the Lib-Dem's into position as the 'natural' party of the progressive left, and labours authoritarian and spendthrift ways are only aiding the transition.

Lib-dems have been the 'progressive left' party for a while, hence the large number of student and young voters, compared to labours traditional-left. Though problem is, lib-dems just lost a large core of their support in the tuition fees scandal.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 12:54

Originally Posted by Beskar

Lib-dems have been the 'progressive left' party for a while, hence the large number of student and young voters, compared to labours traditional-left. Though problem is, lib-dems just lost a large core of their support in the tuition fees scandal.

they'll acquire more as they become a party of government (i.e. adult) rather than a party of protest (i.e. hormonal adolescents), especially if labour goes against the zeitgeist that labour urinated the taxpaying publics cash up the wall, and then spent even more by borrowing over the top of the longest period of economic growth the modern British state has ever seen!

with balls as chancellor that will be a difficult narrative for poor milli to break, and it locks labour into exactly the cycle of failure that prevented the tories from winning for three terms.

**Furunculus** · 01-21-2011, 13:07

ooh, surprise surprise, the lib-dems burnish their lefty credentials and demand an independent lib-dem election fight in 2015:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ependent-party

watch out mili!

**rory_20_uk** · 01-21-2011, 13:28

Yes, Lib Dems need to understand the difference between what they'd like and what is achievable, which currently seems in short supply. Every time they don't get their way there are celebrities in a huff and leaving the party who don't seem to grasp that even if they had a 200 seat majority they'd not be able to immediately do everything they wanted: abolish Trident if you will. Oh, then there is a sudden increase in unemployment up North and vast sums to pay for breaking contracts. Hmmmm, might cost more in the short term. Withdraw all troops immediately from overseas. Oh, America is pissed at us, as it NATO. What's going on? There's repercussions for policies that we'd not bothered to think though...

Labour has done its job. It should have disbanded years ago, happy that it had met all its political objectives.

I hope that we see more Lib-Con mashups in the future as I know its early days but it seems to be a good balance.

**Greyblades** · 01-21-2011, 13:53

I don't realy see why we should want to disband trident, realy those nuclear weapons are the only thing that provides any sort of importance or influence on the world stage now that our economy is in the dumps.