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    Anyone interested in an EU3: Divine Wind succession game? I'm not thinking of anything with significant literary merit, just a bare-bones play-your-reign-post-a-summary-and-pass-it-on type of thing (though feel free to get as creative as you want beyond that). I'll get the ball rolling with the first reign and summary, and I'll keep take responsibility for keeping the game moving. The game would be in unmodded Divine Wind. I don't particularly care about the faction, so if anyone cares they can speak up. I'd be hoping to start this weekend, so quick responses on faction would be great. Feel free to chime in about the faction if you're interested in reading it, even if you can't play.

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    EU3 w/ all expansion packs up to Divine Wind

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    Each player will play until their ruler dies. If the ruler dies in less than one in-game year, the player will play the next ruler as well.
    No reloading except to correct errors caused by honestly mis-clicking an important box. Setbacks are what make this game fun, so roll with the punches even if it's bad.
    At the end of each turn, each player will post at least a brief summary of the events of their reign. A paragraph or two without screenshots is perfectly fine. Anything beyond that is up to you. The player will then PM the next person on the list to inform them that it is their turn.

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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    I haven't been in this area for a long time.

    But as the most talented EU3 player on this forum () I'll be up for it, but if we're going for any sort of realism, I may need limits.

    I presume that means we would be going as each monarch, staying as a monarchy/empire? in the event of regency?
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    I'm not really concerned about realism. If you want to colonize North America as the Mameluks, go right ahead. Play however you see fit during your reigns, whether it be roleplaying, historical, pure fun, randomness, or whatever else you want. The only rules I would put down would be to not intentionally sabotage the game for other people, and no reloading unless you actually mis-click something important (like a peace treaty or major stability hit event or something). If you lose a major battle due to not paying attention, deal with it and move on, it makes the game interesting. Barring that, run the faction as you want to while it is yours. The objective is just to see how a faction develops when it doesn't have some overarching mastermind plan behind it. That will also likely make it more interesting for the individual players, as we'll find ourselves in situations we never would if we had been playing the whole thing ourselves.

    No need to stay in a monarchy. The republics have leaders as well, and they can sometimes stick around longer than monarchs, depending on the circumstances. I would say though that if your monarch/leader/whatever dies less than one year after you start playing, you can play the successor as well. A regency would be treated like a normal reign, so it goes to a different person who plays the regency and hands it off when the heir comes of age (unless that is less than one year).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    No need to stay in a monarchy. The republics have leaders as well, and they can sometimes stick around longer than monarchs, depending on the circumstances. I would say though that if your monarch/leader/whatever dies less than one year after you start playing, you can play the successor as well. A regency would be treated like a normal reign, so it goes to a different person who plays the regency and hands it off when the heir comes of age (unless that is less than one year).
    4 year turns, unless you re-elect, which IIRC not all can do. May be wrong there.

    Regencies are a weird thing. Quite a few times you're in for a long one and heir dies. I really would suggest sticking to a monarchy, just makes it easier.

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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    Sounds interesting, count me in.

    Noble republics have 8 year terms and I'm pretty sure all republics can re-elect. Despots and dictatorships should also work if we chose not to use republics.

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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    For the 4 year republics, perhaps two elections per player or something. It takes a long time to get to most republics anyway. If the game lasts long enough for that to be a realistic issue, we can discuss it in more detail then.

    Any opinions on country?


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    Gah! I would join but don't have Divine Wind yet.

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    So, how does this work? You agree on a nation, say... Castille, and then when the monarch dies you pass the save file onto the next person? So that the story would tell the tale of the evolving country?

    I'd play, but I'm not exactly good at the game; I usually play with AI aggressiveness low, Easy difficulty and no inflation... cos I suck. :P
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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    So, how does this work? You agree on a nation, say... Castille, and then when the monarch dies you pass the save file onto the next person? So that the story would tell the tale of the evolving country?

    I'd play, but I'm not exactly good at the game; I usually play with AI aggressiveness low, Easy difficulty and no inflation... cos I suck. :P
    You got the idea!

    Oh and don't worry about your preferences. I also play with those.
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    And in Divine Wind, even if you reduce AI aggressiveness, you still have cascading alliances that rapidly leave me wondering "why does Creek give a hoot about me subjugating the Scottish?" or whatnot.

    I'd still play this though. :3
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    I am up for a play.
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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    So, how does this work? You agree on a nation, say... Castille, and then when the monarch dies you pass the save file onto the next person? So that the story would tell the tale of the evolving country?

    I'd play, but I'm not exactly good at the game; I usually play with AI aggressiveness low, Easy difficulty and no inflation... cos I suck. :P
    Yep, that's it exactly. Here's an example of a game we started as Naples in the MMP2 mod. It didn't get very far, but it should give you an idea of what it's about. You can be as brief or as detailed as you'd like in the write-up. As long as you generally give a basic account of what happened during your reign, that's perfectly fine. A paragraph or two without any screenshots is good enough; if you want to write more beyond that you can knock yourself out.

    Don't worry about difficulty at all. The entertainment is from watching the evolution of the nation over time as it's controlled by different people with different goals and different play styles. Conquering the world is not necessary, and is usually more boring than a game where simple survival is a struggle.

    We can narrow down the faction by first deciding the area of the world we're interested in. I'd like to veto the Americas, Sub-saharan Africa, and Japan (don't like the way DW handles it). I am personally more interested in North Africa/Middle East, India, Southeast Asia, and non-HRE Europe (East or West).

    [edit] First post updated with the bare-bones rules and a player list (order in which people signed up). Anyone else who is interested will be added on to the end of the list. Once the end of the list is reached, the game will loop back around to the beginning and continue until whenever.
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    Count me in, any faction as long as I'm not first. ;P

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    Yeah I'm down with this too, I lurve EU3

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    I don't have DW, but I'd enjoy reading an English game.

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    Default Re: EU3: Divine Wind Succession Game

    Ok, I'm going to start the game up tomorrow, so it would be nice to get some more faction input. If you don't want to pick a specific faction, at least let me know which area of the world you'd prefer to be in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Ok, I'm going to start the game up tomorrow, so it would be nice to get some more faction input. If you don't want to pick a specific faction, at least let me know which area of the world you'd prefer to be in.
    After westerning (oh lord was that a pain), IMO just pick one in the latin tech group. What are the settings we are going with, as we have some low-setting players here, so we probably shouldn't pick an OPM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    After westerning (oh lord was that a pain), IMO just pick one in the latin tech group. What are the settings we are going with, as we have some low-setting players here, so we probably shouldn't pick an OPM.
    I'm just going to go with default settings. I agree on no OPMs, I'd prefer a medium power of some kind, not one of the majors. If we're going latin, my suggestions are: Burgundy, Holland, Brabant, Bohemia, Denmark, Sweden, Venice, Aragon, Milan, Teutonic Order. Of those, my personal preference would be for Holland, Brabant, or Aragon (I've played a lot of Italy and Eastern Europe lately).


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    I agree on the Latin tech group, I've found from my limited experience that it's generally the most fun to play anyway; I'd prefer a nation that isn't involved with the HRE, considering the stupid "GIMME THOSE PROVINCES!" mechanic that's been added in, it makes territorial expansion as some of the more fun nations (Teutonic Order, Venice, Holland, etc) very difficult.

    About the difficulty and such, can that not be changed by the player after receiving the save game file, or are they always stuck on whatever difficulty the first person set it at? I don't want to impede the fun element by 'forcing' some of the better players to drop down to my lowly levels of difficulty, but at the same time I wouldn't like to pass the game onto someone who finds out I've caused hyper-inflation and left them at war with half of Europe because the settings aren't at my usual level. xD

    Then again, it isn't the actual gaming aspect that appeals to me most, but the historical roleplaying element thereafter, so I guess I'd be fine with whatever you guys decided as a majority. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    I'm just going to go with default settings. I agree on no OPMs, I'd prefer a medium power of some kind, not one of the majors. If we're going latin, my suggestions are: Burgundy, Holland, Brabant, Bohemia, Denmark, Sweden, Venice, Aragon, Milan, Teutonic Order. Of those, my personal preference would be for Holland, Brabant, or Aragon (I've played a lot of Italy and Eastern Europe lately).
    I'd say Aragon.

    HRE and lithu-blob prevent others, tbh.
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    First of all, I would like to have a few clarifications...
    Assuming we are going with a Latin Monarchy,

    What is the rules with a Regency?, does the player hold onto the reigns until a new king is enacted?
    Also what happens if someone claims our throne? and we end up in Personal Union?

    As for choices I think a second rate Monarchy would be more intresting then the stronger ones..
    Maybe something like Denmark, Aragon, Portugal, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, or Hungary.

    You know a kingdom that isn't too strong like England, or France but thats not a one state nation either.
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    I'm in.

    Bohemia, Scotland, Sicily, Aragon & Hungary all sound good to me.

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    I don't think I've done an Aragon playthrough recently (or even ever?). As long as we can hold off Castille (or survive in Italy if things go pear-shaped :P) I think it'll be fun.

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    Sweden is a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriforceV View Post
    First of all, I would like to have a few clarifications...
    Assuming we are going with a Latin Monarchy,

    What is the rules with a Regency?, does the player hold onto the reigns until a new king is enacted?
    Also what happens if someone claims our throne? and we end up in Personal Union?
    A regency is handled like any other reign... handed off to the next person who plays for the duration of the regency, unless the regency lasts for less than one year. For a Personal Union, it should play the same way: the reign of a single ruler is the playtime of a single player. I doubt we'd ever be in a Personal Union for two consecutive reigns anyway.


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    I think I'd like to play a game as Sweden. Aragon would be my second preference. I've never played a game as either of them. Aragon might be a bit hard for some of the less skilled players, sandwiched between France and Castille.

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    The problem with Sweden (or indeed, Norway, Brandenburg, Holland and so on) is that you're in a Personal Union when the game begins; you're not playing as your own King/Queen/Doge/whatever, so the roleplaying aspect of the succession game is dampened somewhat, unless you're acting as the respective monarch and saying things like "and then I made Sweden do this...", which feels a little weird to me.

    That's my two ducats, anyway. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secura View Post
    The problem with Sweden (or indeed, Norway, Brandenburg, Holland and so on) is that you're in a Personal Union when the game begins; you're not playing as your own King/Queen/Doge/whatever, so the roleplaying aspect of the succession game is dampened somewhat, unless you're acting as the respective monarch and saying things like "and then I made Sweden do this...", which feels a little weird to me.

    That's my two ducats, anyway. :3
    Sweden is also incredibly poor, and has major trouble dealing with neighbours. Once you get to a certain point though, its sort of ok.

    Aragon faces a fight for survival, but has multiple avenues of expansion: Iberia, Northern Africa, Italy, colonisation etc
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    Aragon seems to be a popular choice, so I'll make an executive decision and pick that one. I've never played as Aragon personally, so I'm intrigued by it. If anyone has a serious objection to it, raise it now; otherwise I will play my reign tomorrow and the first write-up should be up by tomorrow night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Aragon seems to be a popular choice, so I'll make an executive decision and pick that one. I've never played as Aragon personally, so I'm intrigued by it. If anyone has a serious objection to it, raise it now; otherwise I will play my reign tomorrow and the first write-up should be up by tomorrow night.
    Sounds good.
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