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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    When considering that TA's explanation makes even more sense, for these rebelious factors plenty of places to start a new life.
    I don't understand what you have said.


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    People have been saying China's bubble will end for years and yet it keeps going. I guess people want it to be that way, particularly the economic elite. That's because China doesn't fit into their tidy neoliberal argument and they can't stomach that a country with an incredibly centralised government and strong government economic intervention can be successful, which goes against their tidy neoliberal theory of how the world should be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    People have been saying China's bubble will end for years and yet it keeps going. I guess people want it to be that way, particularly the economic elite. That's because China doesn't fit into their tidy neoliberal argument and they can't stomach that a country with an incredibly centralised government and strong government economic intervention can be successful, which goes against their tidy neoliberal theory of how the world should be.
    China's bubble isn't going to end for a long time as long as the conditions are all met. People just think that the conditions are going to change soon and China will suffer a downturn for it. For example, China needs to make millions of new jobs every year so the immigrants coming from the western provinces don't rebel due to a lack of jobs. People thought that the economic downturn would limit the amount of jobs China would be able to create, but it didn't. China simply pulled out the hire mass amounts of people to do meaningless work tactic and kept the job creation rate high.


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    Those ghost towns seem like a misallocation and waste of resources (though perhaps they will be populated in the future) and a property bubble, if the housing has been bought. The Chinese government (or governments, since the provinces on down can, to some extent, do what they want) can afford to invest money in some uneconomically viable projects (or "lose" it through corruption, mismanagement, etc), but I doubt that it can go on forever. Eventually the white elephants will weigh down the system, along with the ageing population.

    China's biggest long term problem is the massive ageing of the population. The 1 child policy, as well as the high cost of raising children, means that the population is going to shrink, and fast in the future. The tax base and number of workers will shrink alarmingly, and the government will have to figure out what to do with and how to look after the vast number (and high % of the population) of oldies.

    The government is going to need to save while it can. Government revenue is not going to stay sky high forever...
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