Ostracism - Simple yet challenging game of mafia [Concluded]

[Captain Blackadder]

I voted for Skooma first round and missed the second round.

[Chimpyang]

And having returned from the pub, I missed the first round and then voted for Robbiecon.

[classical_hero]

Something about this post feels funny. Smells funny too. To the paranoid mind, it reads more like a warning then a narrative of past events. Whatever the case, we need to actually reach a consensus or agreement this time around.

It was a response to ATPG ramblings which did seem suspicious to since I have been in a similar situation where the two Mafia did not know each other, so it looked like a veiled attempt to do so. I just think that ATPG is protesting too much.

[Yoyoma1910]

I could similarly lambast Yoyoma for posting a poem first...

First off,
I always post
In poetic form.


Second,
That was from Oedipus Rex,
And I felt it quite relevant.

[Beefy187]

I'll extend this round for another 6 hours as I'm still missing votes

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was a response to ATPG ramblings which did seem suspicious to since I have been in a similar situation where the two Mafia did not know each other, so it looked like a veiled attempt to do so. I just think that ATPG is protesting too much.

If you don't know me by now.... you will never, never, never know me.

I play high-risk and I'm willing to lay down for the cause, but I'll still protest a silly lynch.

Now, you know what my reaction typically would be here, look at Robbie and Skooma and my votes for them. So either you like to live dangerously or you're not the scums we're looking for.

The only truly incriminating thing you've done is suggested I'm "rambling", which sounds like reasonless, directionless blather. I think you know that I don't do such a thing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have determined that Death is yonder for Death is yonder.

He's taking a backseat in this game, even though he talks much when he does post. Nice level of activity, is not "lurking", avoiding all the classic triggers.

[Death is yonder]

And maybe out of the house the whole day after he goes to sleep till 8pm his time too which is about 14 hours?

Anyway, I voted Tiberius of the Drake on the first round, feeling that it was likely that the mafia on the first round would likely post BOTH rp posts AND citing randomness for votes.

Second round, I was in a hurry so I voted for Skooma.

Third round, I feel that my theory is at the very least, worth a shot, although I agree that its not a very substantial case, just a gut tweak.

In any case, correct me if I'm wrong:

You're suspicious if Blackadder's post was an attempt to find the other spy, so you now want Chimpyang and him to explain their votes, and for that matter, everyone else.

And you're saying that I'm suspicious because I haven't been giving off any scum tells. Oh darn, I give off scum tells when I'm scum and people rightfully suspect me, and I don't give off scum tells as non-scum, and people suspect me.

Oh dear, I really should stick to one category, perhaps Beskar's (always scummy) category, or perhaps the always not-scummy category

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh dear, I really should stick to one category, perhaps Beskar's (always scummy) category, or perhaps the always not-scummy category

You seem strangely annoyed by a single vote, and my attempts to question suspects.

[Death is yonder]

Not really

my attempts to question suspects.

Was just clarifying your stand on Blackadder, and just generally lamenting the general ease in which I'm read in general.

You'll understand post-game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not really



Was just clarifying your stand on Blackadder, and just generally lamenting the general ease in which I'm read in general.

You'll understand post-game.

My stand is that everyone in the game besides me is a suspect. I've been consistent with that stand, because I've nearly accused every living player so far, and at least one of the dead.

After questioning and pressuring some suspects, they felt worthy of an extension, because they responded satisfactrily. Chimpyang in particular didn't really buckle at all under pressure, and I was almost certain I was going to lynch him.

You deserve some pressure.

Hey, is there anyone out there willing to own up to the votes that I got on round one, or did they just magically appear out of thin air?

[Death is yonder]

Might have been my vote + dumb tally counter.

After all, I did vote for Tiberius, I noticed he didn't get a vote on round 1 so I surmise it must have been my vote that was changed.

Unless of course the dumb tally counter only switches the vote to someone with 0 votes making it 1 vote for a different person instead.

[Askthepizzaguy]

According to Beefy, the vote was not changed in such a way that it could have affected the lynch, so the dumb tally counter was NOT responsible for my 2 votes rouund 1.

That means someone here does not want to admit they voted with robbiecon to try to lynch me, and they're likely the scum.

[Beefy187]

Day 3 summery



At the end of the day, votes were counted..
It reads

ATPG 2
Chimpyang 3
Captain Blackadder 1
Death is Yonder 1

So Chimpyang was the choice today.
Chimpyang didn't hide nor flee.
Instead he drew his knife and charged at other influential figures... like a brave Spartan.
He was captured by all the Athenians and bashed to the death.

People of Athens joyed in the victory. In 3 days they have defeated their enemies.
Proving the effectiveness of the Ostracism system.

TOWN VICTORY!

Vote count
Robbiecon 2 (ATPG, Skooma Addict
Diamondeye 2 (I-K, Chimpyang
Captain Blackadder 1(Tiberius of the Drake
Ibn k 1( Diamondeye
ATPG 2 (Yoyoma, Classical Hero)
Tiberius of the Drake 1 (Death is Yonder. Vote taken away by the dumb tally counter)
Skooma Addict 1 (Captain Blackadder)

Chimpyang kills I-K

Robbiecon (Chimpyang, Classical Hero, Tiberius of the Drake
ATPG (Robbiecon, Yoyoma) Vote switched by the dumb tally counter
Skooma (Death is Yonder, ATPG


Day 3
ATPG (Yoyoma, Classical Hero
Chimpyang (DiY, Captain Blackadder, Skooma Addict
Captain Blackadder (Chimpyang
Death is Yonder (ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, now I feel silly.

Should have kept my votes on my original suspects.

[classical_hero]

Poor I--K, the only one to be killed in this game. God work guys.

[Diamondeye]

Well played, town! We rock

[Askthepizzaguy]

You seem to have a great interest in me, Yoyoma.

[Romanic]

Wow an almost flawless victory is impressive given the votes were hidden.

Always nice to see the Town win some.

[Death is yonder]

Woo!

Out of curiosity, was your choice of diction really trying to fish for the other spy, Chimpyang?

Thanks for the interesting game Beefy, the base concept was intriguing

On a similar note however, since this is an experimental game and you might decide to move forward on this:

The dumb tally vote counter I believe, seemed to be insufficient to counter vote revealing, such as when pizza called for votes to be revealed. As a voter whose vote was the directly affected one on the tally, it was easy to correctly represent the tally, the only deficiency being that you still didn't know who voted who if not everyone revealed. Perhaps in the future a few features could be tweaked around to suit what you are trying to achieve with the game system.

[Romanic]

The dumb tally vote counter I believe, seemed to be insufficient to counter vote revealing, such as when pizza called for votes to be revealed. As a voter whose vote was the directly affected one on the tally, it was easy to correctly represent the tally, the only deficiency being that you still didn't know who voted who if not everyone revealed. Perhaps in the future a few features could be tweaked around to suit what you are trying to achieve with the game system.

I thought the system was fine. You forgot to mention that dead players cannot reveal who they voted for in the previous rounds, this makes it even harder to reconstitute the tally. But even without dead players, the mafia can lie about their votes and the dump counter provides a good alibi. Dump counter + claiming to have voted with many other players = hard to figure who is lying, and you can't be sure if one is lying.

Afaik, the Town hasn't picked a mafia using vote reconstitution, right?

[Chimpyang]

Choice of diction was purely accidental, I knew from the outset that I was playing against the Persian spy, and not with. With hindsight, next time that I'm mafia, I'll be much more careful to not attract attention. If you voted for me based on that lead alone though, then the town got lucky since the choice of words was just an idiosyncracy, somewhat like Yoyoma's verse

My strategy was to try and identify the persian spy quickly, although i chased some floppy red herrings around it seems, and when enough townies have died as a result of our kills, finish off the spy if I could, since there would have been no way of identifying targets that the opposition spy would pick, with the odds of me getting hit increasing as the game goes on. Once the persian spy was down though, it bought me less time to win the game, since the town can randomly bandwagon vig 2 people before there would be a guaranteed townie kill from me. My odds of surviving wasn't great when looking at how many phases I would be in the firing line for before the finish line was in sight!

[Skooma Addict]

lol glad I voted him last minute. w00t

EDIT: Poor Robbiecon never even got a chance to kill anyone.

[Yoyoma1910]

... just an idiosyncracy, somewhat like Yoyoma's verse.

I don't understand your meaning behind this statement.

[robbiecon]

I know and I do enjoy a good night kill Skooma.

[Chimpyang]

I'm illustrating that it is a haibt of yours to use verse in the first post of mafia, it's a habit and personal marker of word usage that I would have said that sentence in the exact same way as I did.