An interesting suggestion

**Amok** · 01-23-2011, 00:57

But instead of them paying you, you can have them do a task that suits you, like you can have them attack a faction that is bugging you with constant sieges or they blockade you port almost every turn. But you can also send their men on suicide charge (after you already took their money that they had) and they could target their leader, which will drain morale a lot. But with a lot of dread, won't they scared and not even want to fight knowing how ruthless you are?

**Phog_of_War** · 01-23-2011, 01:03

This might be done anyway, just in a different way. It was common for Japanese Clans to sent their sons and daughters to rival or ruling factions to seal treaties and deals between the respective Clans. If the deal was broken, the hostages life was forefit and they were usualy told to comit suppuku.

**Amok** · 01-23-2011, 01:14

But what if that person had a significant purpose or trait, won't they want it back, with setting up an attack, or they can be at the faction's knees to beg them back. So you or a computer can give them a task to get them back.

**A Nerd** · 01-23-2011, 01:20

I like your ideas, it would just seem that the AI might find it difficult to manage. I could be wrong though.

**Amok** · 01-23-2011, 01:26

Thanks, but thats true. It might be difficult program so they can understand what is happening. But CA has great programmers (despite what other people say, the guys and girls there are trying their best to make them as perfect as possible for us). But I'm just a dreamer.

**Phog_of_War** · 01-23-2011, 01:26

In the name of 'historical accuracy', which is kind of a relative term regarding some of CA's releases, I dont think it every really happened that way.

In the samauri culture the worst possible thing that could happen was to be taken as a POW. It is a loss of honor and face. Most samauri would much rather die gloriously on the field of battle. This mindset carried all the way to World War II, which is part of the reason that Truman decided to nuke the Japanese homelands.

Also to be put up against their Diamyo in that fashion would be inconcievable to a samauri. Its almost blackmail or bribery. This political gamesmanship was not common in Japanese feudal society. It is mostly a trait of European kingdoms. To a Diamyo, and especially the Shogun himself, those sort of underhanded actions were not honorable at all.

**Amok** · 01-23-2011, 01:31

Oh, so if CA doesn't want to piss a lot of people, which they don't, then they won't add this feature. But maybe in future games, like Rome 2, if they decide to create that game.

**A Nerd** · 01-23-2011, 01:48

I would think this might be accomplished, perhaps 'ahistorically' in some diplomatic screen, then you get the units and use them as you wish. Concerning the AI, well, he might make the deal but the actual usage of the units pertaining to the diplomacy would probably be lacking. I know not enough about history to give specific examples as to S2TW and the potential R2TW.