The Palestine Papers

[Beskar]

Well, if that is the road we are going to travel then I could say you excuse the murder of Palestinian children.

No.

And yet Israel conducts regime supported killings and they have no-go neighbourhoods for homosexuals. Hmmmm... that looks pretty bad.

No. But I heard 'stone a homosexual' is a Palestinian favourite. Palestine is far more backwards than Israel is by a mile so your comments are pretty redundant.

It works to their advantage. They get to play their decades-long victim routine, and they hide behind that as an excuse to (continue to) steal land and resources from the Palestinians. Treat the Palestinians like animals in the hopes they behave like animals because no one cares what you do to animals.

No.

In that case the US bigots were in the minority. The Palestinians have to face Israel and the US and Canada and all the other puppet countries that toe the Israeli line no matter what Israel does. That's a big enemy for the Palestinians to go toe to toe with.

No. Israel has to face the other countries in the region who want to wipe Israel "off the face of the world", it is a good thing that more enlightened nations are able to support Israel.

Better than just sitting back and letting them murder people and keep the rest imprisoned for life.

No. Because I thought you was meant to be commenting on Israel and not Hamas here?

Bringing food and medicine to suffering people. Such a provocation!

I wonder if I'll be shot for donating canned soup to the local food bank.

No. The whole 'aid' was a publicity stunt and they were carrying weapons and illegal contraband. Even a BBC (who is pro-Palestinian if anything) during a Panorama investigation revealed this. The whole thing was a plot to discredit Israel.

Isreal has been murdering innocent people for decades. But since the US and Canadian government's noses are so far up Israel's keester, Isreal gets away with murder because our idiot governments back Israel up no matter who they kill.

No. Because you are simply just talking nonsense.

You are clearly not knowing what you are talking about and there is no 'debate' when you just regurgitate nonsense. On the other-hand, there are posters here with "more of a clue" because they actually been to Palestine and Israel first-hand and actually knows what is going on more indepth. I have visited Palestine and Israel, I do know what the conditions there are like. Things were actually far better off for the Palestinians before they turned to terrorism. Palestinian used to be the bulk of the labour force in Israel, now Israeli's have to look towards the Far-east like the Philippines for immigrant labour. The Israel has valid justification for the territory and even attempted to please the Palestinian and Arabian nations. however, they are unwilling to ensure security and that is something Israel wants, due to the muslim-backed terrorism in the area.

[Beirut]

No.

Yes. And I don't think I was talking to you anyway, though I always enjoy your posts. :)

No. But I heard 'stone a homosexual' is a Palestinian favourite. Palestine is far more backwards than Israel is by a mile so your comments are pretty redundant.

Yes. And there are similar Jewish religious quotes like the one you used. And there are parts of Israeli society where women's rights are stone age to say the least. So "backwards" is everywhere.

No.

Yes.

No. Israel has to face the other countries in the region who want to wipe Israel "off the face of the world", it is a good thing that more enlightened nations are able to support Israel.

Yes. Isreal has massive support and uses every opportunity, through coercion, to make sure that support is loud and generous. The myth of Israeli fragility is a myth used, to good effect, as camouflage.

No. Because I thought you was meant to be commenting on Israel and not Hamas here?

Yes. I was commenting on the inhuman brutality of the Israelis towards the Palestinians.

No. The whole 'aid' was a publicity stunt and they were carrying weapons and illegal contraband. Even a BBC (who is pro-Palestinian if anything) during a Panorama investigation revealed this. The whole thing was a plot to discredit Israel.

Yes. People were ambushed and murdered by Israeli forces for the crime of bringing food and medicine to suffering people.It's as simple as that. Might as well blame Martin Luther King for being beaten while marching for civil rights.

No. Because you are simply just talking nonsense.

Yes. I am speaking the truth. You may not want to hear it, but I cannot help that.

You are clearly not knowing what you are talking about and there is no 'debate' when you just regurgitate nonsense. On the other-hand, there are posters here with "more of a clue" because they actually been to Palestine and Israel first-hand and actually knows what is going on more indepth. I have visited Palestine and Israel, I do know what the conditions there are like. Things were actually far better off for the Palestinians before they turned to terrorism. Palestinian used to be the bulk of the labour force in Israel, now Israeli's have to look towards the Far-east like the Philippines for immigrant labour. The Israel has valid justification for the territory and even attempted to please the Palestinian and Arabian nations. however, they are unwilling to ensure security and that is something Israel wants, due to the muslim-backed terrorism in the area.

And all this time I thought it was you regurgitating nonsense. ;)

The situation is as clear as the summer sun; a nuclear superpower aided and abetted by the world's superpower, is keeping an entire people locked up and beaten down under the most brutal and inhumane conditions. Israel can pump out all the PR and excuses it wants, but in the end it is guilty of running concentration camps and violating the human rights of millions with illegal detentions, torture, theft, and murder. Candy coat it all you want, Isreal is guilty as sin.

[Beskar]

Yes. People were ambushed and murdered by Israeli forces for the crime of bringing food and medicine to suffering people.It's as simple as that. Might as well blame Martin Luther King for being beaten while marching for civil rights.

Hahah, no they didn't. Israeli forces were ambushed and were shot at by "Peaceful Protestors", which forced the Israeli to completely change tactics and end up fighting back.

Yes. I am speaking the truth. You may not want to hear it, but I cannot help that.

No, you are not saying the truth at all and it is nothing to do with me hearing it. Infact, I used to have a position similar to yours until I visited Palestine myself and actually discovered the truths about the situation, ask the other users here about that. I am not "deaf" to anything, I realized I was wrong and changed opinion.

The situation is as clear as the summer sun; a nuclear superpower aided and abetted by the world's superpower, is keeping an entire people locked up and beaten down under the most brutal and inhumane conditions.

Except they are not locked up and beaten down under the most brutal and inhumane conditions. I have been there, spoken and walked with Palestinians there, while you are sat in your armchair in Canada being spoonfed biased information.

Israel can pump out all the PR and excuses it wants, but in the end it is guilty of running concentration camps and violating the human rights of millions with illegal detentions, torture, theft, and murder. Candy coat it all you want, Isreal is guilty as sin.

Israel is no knight in shining armour and I have never said that, but it is definitely the lesser of the two evils.

[Beirut]

Hahah, no they didn't. Israeli forces were ambushed and were shot at by "Peaceful Protestors", which forced the Israeli to completely change tactics and end up fighting back.

Change tactics? You mean the heavily armed Israeli soldiers who conducted a surprise helicopter attack on that boat went there with love in their hearts and then, seeing that some people won't put up with their Gestapo tactics, had to - wait for it - "change tactics", and the soldiers actually had to use the weapons they brought with them?

How terrible for those poor soldiers.

No, you are not saying the truth at all and it is nothing to do with me hearing it. Infact, I used to have a position similar to yours until I visited Palestine myself and actually discovered the truths about the situation, ask the other users here about that. I am not "deaf" to anything, I realized I was wrong and changed opinion.

And you will realize once more that you are wrong and change your opinion again, that's the beauty of it.

Except they are not locked up and beaten down under the most brutal and inhumane conditions. I have been there, spoken and walked with Palestinians there, while you are sat in your armchair in Canada being spoonfed biased information.

So the decades long incarceration of the Palestinians is a myth? The thousands of innocent Palestinians killed by Israel never existed? The countless hundreds of bombed out building in Gaza aren't really there? So we're free to bring food and medicine to the Palestinians without being murdered by Israeli special forces?

Next time your in Gaza, tell the Palestinians that. They'll be greatly relieved to hear your version of the truth.

Israel is no knight in shining armour and I have never said that, but it is definitely the lesser of the two evils.

The Zionists started the evil and the Israelis perpetuate it. The Palestinians are the victims of Isreal, Isreal's puppets in other countries, and of the Arab states. The Palestinians are treated worse than animals and under Israeli orders, they are told to be seen as animals as well. I ain't buying it.

[Fragony]

The second fattest people of the planet get free food, free electricity, free medicine, and wish I had that much choice when looking for a 5 star holiday resort nearby. And still they can't control their need to kill. Here we would say thanks for the food, the medicine, the electricity, the pools, the huge manors

edit: unlike Beskar I haven't been there, but I do know people from there, including ex Hamas, who do you think they are really scared of.

You pleasantly surprise me Beskar Israel is no knight in shining armour indeed, but it really does not deserve the hate.

[Hax]

No, the Palestinian territories (including Gaza) is not the second fattest country in the world.

[Fragony]

No, the Palestinian territories (including Gaza) is not the second fattest country in the world.

Nor are they a country, doesn't change that they are pretty well fed. Too well without aid they would starve. I would be infinitely be more cruel towards them then the Israeli's would ever dream of, I would simply let them to their own devices. They can't, they will die, and I couldn't care one bit. Byebye

[Beirut]

The second fattest people of the planet get free food, free electricity, free medicine, and wish I had that much choice when looking for a 5 star holiday resort nearby. And still they can't control their need to kill. Here we would say thanks for the food, the medicine, the electricity, the pools, the huge manors

And what planet might that be, dear sir?

[Furunculus]

And you will realize once more that you are wrong and change your opinion again, that's the beauty of it.

ah........ the very definition of inquisitive human endeavor. intellectual inflexibility combined with ideological purity is not a happy combination.

[Fragony]

ah........ the very definition of inquisitive human endeavor. intellectual inflexibility combined with ideological purity is not a happy combination.

If you have any love for humanity how about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0C2QvqIlo I'm a humanist at heart, that's why I want to kill a few

edit, she doesn't even know her own religion, that lamb was poisened to make sure teh mo was really a prophet, and it came back to life to warn him gawd. I know that. and I'm a europian

[Beirut]

If you have any love for humanity how about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0C2QvqIlo I'm a humanist at heart, that's why I want to kill a few

Here are a few more humans for you to love: The Gestapo of the Sea.