The Palestine Papers

[Beirut]

Will you undo the English conquest and subjugation of French Canada and leave Québec?

Subjugation of the French? In Quebec?

Pardon me while I laugh uproariously.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Subjugation of the French? In Quebec?

Pardon me while I laugh uproariously.

I see.

I wouldn't want to drag this thread into a debate about the English conquest of French America, nor interrupt your laughing uproariously. But a quick comparison could serve to explore the topic further.

Several decades after the conquest, the English conquerers etnically cleansed the Canadian maritime provinces. A third of Frenchmen were killed outright. The remaining ones fled. They still exist. The Cajuns. Do you agree that these French refugees should be returned the lands from which the English occupiers expelled them? There are several million of them.


What, except for a century and a half, is the difference between you and an Israeli colonist?

[Beirut]

I see.

I wouldn't want to drag this thread into a debate about the English conquest of French America, nor interrupt your laughing uproariously. But a quick comparison could serve to explore the topic further.

Well, let's see... though English and though born here, I was schooled in French, always worked in French, got my required licenses (gun, driver, rent-a-cop) in French, opened a business with a French name as required by law, all the government, tax, and business documentation needing to be done in French as required by law, defended myself in French in a French speaking court system, voted for provicial politicians who were all French, and voted in democratic referendums held by French speaking people wanting Quebec to become an independent country. (What other repressive country like Canada allows for it's subjugated peoples to take a big chunck of land and leave whenever they want to, nothing required but a democratitic vote.)

Oh, and when I got cut open and sewed back together again last year... yep, that's right - all in French.

Now, tell unto me once more of the subjugations suffered here, would you please?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well, let's see... though English and though born here, I was schooled in French, always worked in French, got my required licenses (gun, driver, rent-a-cop) in French, opened a business with a French name as required by law, all the government, tax, and business documentation needing to be done in French as required by law, defended myself in French in a French speaking court system, voted for provicial politicians who were all French, and voted in democratic referendums held by French speaking people wanting Quebec to become an independent country. (What other repressive country like Canada allows for it's subjugated peoples to take a big chunck of land and leave whenever they want to, nothing required but a democratitic vote.)

Oh, and when I got cut open and sewed back together again last year... yep, that's right - all in French.

Now, tell unto me once more of the subjugations suffered here, would you please?

It it not about Canada, but about establishing guiding principles.


Does your stance on Canada mean that in principle you think Israel should exist, but that it should treat the Palestinians as well as English Canadians treat their minorities?

[Fragony]

It it not about Canada, but about establishing guiding principles.


Does your stance on Canada mean that in principle you think Israel should exist, but that it should treat the Palestinians as well as English Canadians treat their minorities?

Allowing them to rule themselves in territories that are their own, only Canadian in name? Ah well. Where teh outraged over the Marrocans illegally holding the Western Sahara, where are they when Turkey uses gas against the Kurds, where are they when Egypt gasses Palestinians. Horrible way to die, your longues actually melt, you live long enough to cough parts of them up, 30 minutes or so.

[Beirut]

It it not about Canada, but about establishing guiding principles.


Does your stance on Canada mean that in principle you think Israel should exist, but that it should treat the Palestinians as well as English Canadians treat their minorities?

I believe the creation of Israel was a criminal, but it's too late to do anything about it. Israel exists and that's that. And no, the Israelis should have no jurisdiction over the Palestinians. Palestine has to be a free country.