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    Default Re: Sweboz - How to deal with the Sauro threat freom the east?

    Hmm I was thinking that a) Woods are a good Idea, but b) also towns. Bastarnolandam is now held by a force of almost a fullstack of HA. Half of them are light half of them really heavy. I wonder what I should use against that stack. I reckon Duguntiz are alwqays welcome against cavalry and Sloxonez with their AP clubs mightserve well against those heavy dudes.

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    You want to fight with faction troops only? Or would you concider foreign warriors as an option? Skandinavian spearmen seem to me the right choice - better shield (4), good charge, tough unit; Jugundiz and Skutjonez will help a lot, but you will still take huge causalities. The latter would offer you a strategy of combined forces: you´ll need your own HA´s ( cantabrian circle rulez ) and/or good archers, like the Skythians, Kretans, even Medinicas, together with some really heavily armoured units like classical hoplites, merc phalangitai ( everything with a shield value of 4 and more + heavy armour ). Some Bastarne might help in cutting down the Sauro tank bodyguards in the end ( Slaxonez might be enough, though ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by vollorix View Post
    You want to fight with faction troops only? Or would you concider foreign warriors as an option? Skandinavian spearmen seem to me the right choice - better shield (4), good charge, tough unit; Jugundiz and Skutjonez will help a lot, but you will still take huge causalities. The latter would offer you a strategy of combined forces: you´ll need your own HA´s ( cantabrian circle rulez ) and/or good archers, like the Skythians, Kretans, even Medinicas, together with some really heavily armoured units like classical hoplites, merc phalangitai ( everything with a shield value of 4 and more + heavy armour ). Some Bastarne might help in cutting down the Sauro tank bodyguards in the end ( Slaxonez might be enough, though ).
    Aye, mercenaries are a nice option indeed, gotta agree wi'ya.


    About towns, i know its obvious the advantage, but what if the AI besiege the town and force you to go meet them in the open field or else you'll lose the city by ranning out of food?
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    If you sally against Sauros you´re going to regret it for the rest of your life ^^
    Autoresolve with some heavy troops, preferebly phalangitai + multiple star general, that´s what i´d do...
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    Your strength against horse archers is your walls, and shielded troops, so keep behind the walls and hope they try to assault, or if it's down to the last few turns, bring another army and overwhelm them with numbers if they keep starving you out. I would say sloxonez could be better used than Bastarnae Falxmen, because falxmen die horrendously from arrow fire, and sloxonez have large shields and larger numbers, and they are almost as strong offensively, while being comparably cheap. Speutogordozez could be useful, a few units could be useful to dehorse those heavy bodyguards, and they can chase them too if you keep them in reserve until they're entangled.
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    Default Re: Sweboz - How to deal with the Sauro threat freom the east?

    Quote Originally Posted by vollorix View Post
    If you sally against Sauros you´re going to regret it for the rest of your life ^^
    Autoresolve with some heavy troops, preferebly phalangitai + multiple star general, that´s what i´d do...
    Autoresolve ain' an option!

    If there are no near/possible/built reinforcements near and so you need to sally out:
    lets say the sauromatae forces are on the north part of the city, i would sally out my forces through the south gate and organize my forces in there, and then walk around the city and meet them, while on the fight, i would also try to lure them near the towers at the walls (if the city has any anyway), so additional damage can be made on them.

    About the result of this, well, you can expect taking lots of casulties, but if you got good defensive infantry and some archers/slingers i don't think its impossible, ohh no.
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    The range of Sauros HAs is enoough to keep them away from the walls while shooting at your units. And normaly, their troops immidietly move away and take positions far away from the gates, but unlike other infantry based armies they are permanently on skirmishing mod if you attack them with anything else then skirmishers/archers. And while you are moving forward they´ll shoot your poor armoured troops down, since shield value 3 of most of your units won´t even protect them from the front, so they will be shot to pieces...
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    Default Re: Sweboz - How to deal with the Sauro threat freom the east?

    Quote Originally Posted by vollorix View Post
    The range of Sauros HAs is enoough to keep them away from the walls while shooting at your units. And normaly, their troops immidietly move away and take positions far away from the gates, but unlike other infantry based armies they are permanently on skirmishing mod if you attack them with anything else then skirmishers/archers. And while you are moving forward they´ll shoot your poor armoured troops down, since shield value 3 of most of your units won´t even protect them from the front, so they will be shot to pieces...
    Exactly.
    I think that Baltic archers, Celtic slingers are a good combo on open field. When it comes to fighting in a city, as I said before I'd rather rely on Duguntiz (Skandinavian spearman are to far away!) and Sloxonez, maybe some Dacian skirmishers. The problem is that they never seem to assault a city, I always have to attack them with a second army, with costly HA mercs. And since I don't have taken any scythian regions yet I can't recruit any fancy bosporan archers or greek hoplites or HA. I eventually lost the Bastarnae, so I have to get back to the drawing board. For now rule over all the germanic regions, plus Ascaucalis, Carrodunum and G-Ostan. I don't want to conquer gaul so early, since the celts are able to build better stuff (paved roads, stone walls) and I want to take a place in a made nest. Muahahaha

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