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    for an example arabian culture is not good at modern western style warfare. a war doctrine which is undoubtedly best. the point that individuals can be better designed for war than others has a hell of a lot of relevance.

    you know what else is flat out wrong using the term jap. dont its insulting and i do not want to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    for an example arabian culture is not good at modern western style warfare. a war doctrine which is undoubtedly best. the point that individuals can be better designed for war than others has a hell of a lot of relevance.
    Meh, The Isrealis come from the same culture and they do ok, Turkey isn't a slouch. Those countries problems run so much deeper than instituting a doctirne though. The examples are bad

    This whole thing reads like an 1890s pamphlet on the virtues of the white man

    you know what else is flat out wrong using the term jap. dont its insulting and i do not want to hear it.
    Clearly you just aren't tough enough to be a citizen solider. Quit ROTC

    And If I wanted to be insulting I wouldn't have captilized the J, For the sake of expidence nothing more.
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    i have lived i a military lifestyle for my entire life dont tell me what i can and cannot do. dont use that term its known to be demeaning and insulting and demonstrates your inability to understand you cannot state that i am a pro white power belief holder and use an antiquated term like that.

    furthermore your lack of knowledge is shocking. Israelis are most certainly not arabian. If anything you can stretch and say they are aramaic but really most are east and western european really. And turks arent arabians either good god.

    yeah i could walk around dropping terms like hajii or other disrespectful terms referring to middle eastern culture but i dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    i have lived i a military lifestyle for my entire life dont tell me what i can and cannot do. dont use that term its known to be demeaning and insulting and demonstrates your inability to understand you cannot state that i am a pro white power belief holder and use an antiquated term like that.
    This is rich, you just spent an entire thread demeaning peoples based on some unsubstantiated, and antiquated method of quantifying military might and then you get all but hurt when I use a term which can be misconstrued (as it was here)

    Once again you are clearly not an American Spartan citizen. AN AMERICAN SHOWS NO FEAR HE ONLY PULLS THE TRIGGER

    furthermore your lack of knowledge is shocking. Israelis are most certainly not arabian. If anything you can stretch and say they are aramaic but really most are east and western european really. And turks arent arabians either good god.
    http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictiona...Semitic+people

    The Turks are majoirly msulim (duh). I think the fact these two states are secular and relativly democratic means so much more than this "culture" that is being refered to

    yeah i could walk around dropping terms like hajii or other disrespectful terms referring to middle eastern culture but i dont.
    You just did....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    furthermore your lack of knowledge is shocking. Israelis are most certainly not arabian. If anything you can stretch and say they are aramaic but really most are east and western european really. And turks arent arabians either good god.

    yeah i could walk around dropping terms like hajii or other disrespectful terms referring to middle eastern culture but i dont.
    Israelis are Semite same as Arabs therefore same people just different culture.
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    we are disagreeing about culture arent we.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Meh, The Isrealis come from the same culture and they do ok, Turkey isn't a slouch. Those countries problems run so much deeper than instituting a doctirne though. The examples are bad

    This whole thing reads like an 1890s pamphlet on the virtues of the white man
    there was a report by a US Army Colonel on the 'problems' with Arab culture and how it translates to military effectiveness in modern warfare:

    http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    there was a report by a US Army Colonel on the 'problems' with Arab culture and how it translates to military effectiveness in modern warfare:

    http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
    Yes but these same problems are applicable to sub-saharan Africa, a place with a much different culture than the Arabs. What is the response then? I
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    those arabian countries have plenty of decent tech......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    those arabian countries have plenty of decent tech......
    And this has what to do with anything in the article?

    Tech isn't mentioned
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    this has to do with your comparison to sub shahran africa. these militaries should be effective but they still arent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Yes but these same problems are applicable to sub-saharan Africa, a place with a much different culture than the Arabs. What is the response then? I
    that those cultures are equally defficient at mastering modern warfare.............?
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    Default Re: Europe and the Rest of the World - A Military Analysis

    you know what else is flat out wrong using the term jap. dont its insulting and i do not want to hear it.
    This coming from the guy saying people are inferior/superior due to race/nationality...
    Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.


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    culture is entirely separate from race and nationality. you want proof just google the concept.

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    culture is entirely separate from race and nationality. you want proof just google the concept.
    Ok then:
    This coming from the guy saying people are inferior/superior due to culture...
    Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.


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    at certain things...... why dont you actually do some research unless your an expert on arabian adaptation of modern warfare.

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    Culture is the new race, it's nothing more than a thin veil so people won't be ostracized for their antiqauted beliefs

    at certain things...... why dont you actually do some research unless your an expert on arabian adaptation of modern warfare
    I don't need to when you make it this easy....I mean my God, people still think this way?
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    http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD...ne_arabs1.html

    i mean my god people still dont know how to look at things before they disagree!

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    Including culture in strategic assessments has a poor legacy, for it has often been spun from an ugly brew of ignorance, wishful thinking, and mythology. Thus, the U.S. Army in the 1930s evaluated the Japanese national character as lacking originality and drew the unwarranted conclusion that that country would be permanently disadvantaged in technology. Hitler dismissed the United States as a mongrel society and consequently underestimated the impact of America’s entry into the war. American strategists assumed that the pain threshold of the North Vietnamese approximated our own and that the air bombardment of the North would bring it to its knees. Three days of aerial attacks were thought to be all the Serbs could withstand; in fact, seventy-eight days were needed.
    But this time we're right! I swear!

    And then the 3 headings can be attributed to every other third world nation

    /facepalm
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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