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    Default Re: Koinon Hellenon: Athens X Sparta (.org X TWCenter), a participative AAR - Athenai

    Quote Originally Posted by jirisys View Post
    That's why we should have a Boule for both factions' Prytaneis... Don't you think?

    Why not both? So we have a fullstack on the attack without breaking the rules?

    ~Jirisys ()
    No.

    It is strictly against the rules for the Athenian Council to give orders to the Alliance Army without holding the office of Strategos, or to give orders to the Spartan Army at any time. This is in the law.

    I will go extremely OOC in this post. My posts are usually neutral in a limbo between IC and OOC.

    It makes absolutely no sense in creating a council for the Party Leaders (Prytaneis are the Athenian Party Leaders, the Spartan ones are the Ephoroi) for a number of reasons:

    1) Where would this be created? The TWC or the .org? I can't force people from a forum to register in another one and vice-versa. Not everybody is registered in both forums.

    2) It is extremely ahistorical. The Koinon isn't a nation. Where is the Koinon? In which city would this Council be located? The citizens of a polis respond to their polis and to nothing else. It just makes no sense at all to have a "non-polis" council. We already have the Koinon Session which is when the councilors of Sparta and Athens may dialogue between each other.

    3) It would defeat the entire purpose of this AAR, which is having two councils in conflict with each other. This division is one of the main reasons this AAR has been fun so far.

    4) I see no point for only 7 players to decide what will be done in this AAR, instead of ALL players as it is now.

    5) The Koinon matters are COMPLETELY COVERED with the current system. The polis that controls the office of Hegemon controls construction and recruitment with priority throughout all the cities, while the Strategos controls military through the Alliance Army. There is no need for another council. What would it decide? Tax levels? There's nothing else to be done that isn't covered in the current system.

    6) If I wanted a huge super-stack of doom to blitz the stupid AI, I'd play single player and not write an AAR. You should try that if that's your thing.

    Even if this was passed as law in a Koinon Session, which is when it should be proposed rather than in the middle of a Polis Session such as the one we are in right now, I'd 100% veto it with my powers of creator of this AAR, which are higher than the laws in the first post, because I believe such a thing would make this AAR less fun. There is no argument to be made in this matter.

    And believe me, all my efforts here go into making this AAR fun for everyone, or at least for as many people as possible.

    Sorry for the huge rant, guys. I've addressed this before and it apparently went unnoticed. This is my final word on the creation of a third and "exclusive for only a few people" council. I don't even know why I should have to write such a huge argument on this, this is as clear as day to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by jirisys
    Why not both? So we have a fullstack on the attack without breaking the rules?
    Chremonides's command would override Doros's because of the number of stars of the generals. You can't have Chremonides command 12 units, only 8. You won't have a full stack either way, only either 12 or 8 units.
    Last edited by Molinaargh; 02-07-2011 at 03:42.

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