Koinon Hellenon: Athens X Sparta (.org X TWCenter), a participative AAR - Athenai

[Paltmull]

The same goes for our fleet, the pride of Athens. I therefore AGREE with my collegue who spoke before me.

Enyalio: You meant to agree with The Blacksmith and not diomede, right? Just to avoid misunderstandings.

Allow me to feel you out on a touchy subject, that of the navy. At present it appears that we Spartans have decided to rebuild our navy, primarily to have one available for when you bar us from using your own. May I propose that we attempt to cooperate more on the use of the Koinon's navy?

Diomedes' proposal raises a very important question, namely this: What is the purpose of the Koinon? Is it to cooperate in defending against foreign threats, or is it to help each other in attacking independent cities and carving out empires? I say it is the first of the two. Therefore, the Athenian fleet should be used only in the interests of either the alliance or Athens. If Sparta wishes to conquer cities for their own glory, then fine, but we should not help them.

Diomede, may I ask you what you want with our fleet? Does Sparta have personal interests in Asia Minor? Just remember whose historical sphere of influence that is...

Anyway, if Spartans at all are allowed to make proposals in our council (which I suppose they aren't), I DISAGREE with Diomedes' proposal. At the moment the alliance should not have any oversea interests. And Sparta should definitely not be allowed to use our navy for their own advantage.