Koinon Hellenon: Athens X Sparta (.org X TWCenter), a participative AAR - Athenai

[Molinaargh]

Not at all. It only requires a lvl 4 gov. :)

I'll check that next time.

Small update to the Athenian parties:

I've kept Arthouros as Epistates because he's been so helpful. Let me know if there were any other additions/changes that I missed, I haven't updated these in a long time.

[diomede]

What did Athens do to lose a civil war square? NOT that I'm complaining.

Athenians, let me know if you want to start a war with Pontos. Currently I would rather we didn't and expect that to be the sentiment of the rest of our council.

[Molinaargh]

As you guys can see I made myself a new sig (and avatar too!). I made samples if anyone wants to fill it with their own character info. You don't have to, of course. Here:

I'll probably be assigning influence points to everyone's characters so we can have some more interesting intra-koinon mechanics, we'll see.

The font I use is Charlemagne, by the way, if anyone wants to try to match it. It shouldn't be necessary though, and you can even add your text/portrait in Paint and it should work fine!

What did Athens do to lose a civil war square? NOT that I'm complaining.

Arthouros's proposals for 255 BC, I believe.

[Biowulf]

What did Athens do to lose a civil war square? NOT that I'm complaining.

Athenians, let me know if you want to start a war with Pontos. Currently I would rather we didn't and expect that to be the sentiment of the rest of our council.

I would think that a third war would be a very bad thing for us right now. Let's finish off Epeiros and see what the Getai do. As such:
I Propose that Poublious sallies forth to confront the Seleukid army. It is better to fight when fresh than when starving.
I Propose that we start feeding a few mnai to the barbarians so they don't feel the need to take our riches from us. A few hundred every season should be enough.
I Propose we send a spy to look for anymore Epeirote holdings and to scout out the lands of: The Seleukids, the Romaioi, and the Getai. It's best to know where potential enemies could strike and where friends need help.

[jirisys]

Done

~Jirisys ()

[Populus Romanus]

Done

~Jirisys ()

Done as well. Unfortunately, I cannot view it myself because Norton blocks imageshack. What a shame.

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

Behold your Epistates! :

Athenians, let me know if you want to start a war with Pontos. Currently I would rather we didn't and expect that to be the sentiment of the rest of our council.

Yes we shall refrain from going to war against Pontos. For now...

I would think that a third war would be a very bad thing for us right now. Let's finish off Epeiros and see what the Getai do. As such:
I Propose that Poublious sallies forth to confront the Seleukid army. It is better to fight when fresh than when starving.
I Propose that we start feeding a few mnai to the barbarians so they don't feel the need to take our riches from us. A few hundred every season should be enough.
I Propose we send a spy to look for anymore Epeirote holdings and to scout out the lands of: The Seleukids, the Romaioi, and the Getai. It's best to know where potential enemies could strike and where friends need help.

1. DISAGREE - (See my Proposal below)

2. Neutral

3. AGREE


I PROPOSE that Doros briefly leaves his post as Eponymos Archon and takes command of the Athenai forces stationed in Athenai, and travel to Pergamon to assist our forces there. As soon as the siege is lifted/the Seleucid threat somewhat neutralized, he shall return to Athenai and to his post as Eponymos Archon, and leave a portion of his forces at Pergamon as reinforcement.

I PROPOSE that we expand the Military Docks at Rhodes further.

I PROPOSE that we build better barracks in Kydonia.

I PROPOSE that we in Athenai recruit 3 units of Thorakitai and 2 units of Hippeis in addition to any units of the same type that are already being recruited.


@Molinaargh, How many turns are left till the barracks in Athenai are completed?

Oh and could you edit the my law thingy in the OP (here and at TWC) I made a few typos I think:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

-Athenai recognizes that the lands West of Hellas and all Poleis West of Hellas are in the Zone of Interest and Expansion of the polis Sparte. This with the addition of the polis Kyrene. Athenai shall not attempt to conquer poleis and land west of Hellas, and shall not actively work against Spartiatai expansion in the area, be it by ways of the sword or the word. If the expansion Spartiatai expansion in the area happens to be harmful to the Koinon as a whole, and/or Athenai, then Athenai has the right to voice its opposition of said expansion, the reasons presented should not be of a selfish nature used to hamper Spartiatai expansion/increased range of influence. Athenai also reserve the right to voice its opposition of unfair treatment of the population of Free Poleis upon their incorporation under Sparte.

-Sparte recognizes that the lands East of Hellas and all Poleis East of Hellas are in the Zone of Interest and Expansion of the polis Athenai. This with the exception of Byzantion which shall be a neutral polis. Sparte shalll not attempt to conquer poleis and land East of Hellas, and shall not actively work against Athenoi expansion in the area, be it by ways of the sword or the word. If the Athenoi expansion in the area happens to be harmful to the Koinon as a whole, and/or Sparte, then Sparte has the right to voice its opposition of said expansion, the reasons presented should not be of a selfish nature used to hamper Athenoi expansion/increased range of influence. Sparte also reserve the right to voice its opposition of unfair treatment of the population of Free Poleis upon their incorporation under Athenai.

Change into this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

-Athenai recognizes that the lands West of Hellas and all Poleis West of Hellas are in the Zone of Interest and Expansion of the polis Sparte. This with the addition of the polis Kyrene. Athenai shall not attempt to conquer poleis and land west of Hellas, and shall not actively work against Spartiatai expansion in the area, be it by ways of the sword or the word. If the Spartiatai expansion in the area happens to be harmful to the Koinon as a whole, and/or Athenai, then Athenai has the right to voice its opposition of said expansion, the reasons presented should not be of a selfish nature used to hamper Spartiatai expansion/increased range of influence. Athenai also reserve the right to voice its opposition of unfair treatment of the population of Free Poleis upon their incorporation under Sparte.

-Sparte recognizes that the lands East of Hellas and all Poleis East of Hellas are in the Zone of Interest and Expansion of the polis Athenai. This with the exception of Byzantion which shall be a neutral polis. Sparte shall not attempt to conquer poleis and land East of Hellas, and shall not actively work against Athenoi expansion in the area, be it by ways of the sword or the word. If the Athenoi expansion in the area happens to be harmful to the Koinon as a whole, and/or Sparte, then Sparte has the right to voice its opposition of said expansion, the reasons presented should not be of a selfish nature used to hamper Athenoi expansion/increased range of influence. Sparte also reserve the right to voice its opposition of unfair treatment of the population of Free Poleis upon their incorporation under Athenai.

Without the bolded text of course, Thanks in advance.

[Molinaargh]

@Molinaargh, How many turns are left till the barracks in Athenai are completed?

Oh and could you edit the my law thingy in the OP (here an at TWC) I made a few typos I think

Done. The barracks will take another 4 seasons.

[jirisys]

Behold your Epistates! :

Arthouros Attkos? lol, I will change mine to Leumenes!

~Jirisys ()

[Greenlizard0.]

Behold your Epistates! :

1. DISAGREE - (See my Proposal below)

2. Neutral

3. AGREE


I PROPOSE that Doros briefly leaves his post as Eponymos Archon and takes command of the Athenai forces stationed in Athenai, and travel to Pergamon to assist our forces there. As soon as the siege is lifted/the Seleucid threat somewhat neutralized, he shall return to Athenai and to his post as Eponymos Archon, and leave a portion of his forces at Pergamon as reinforcement.

I PROPOSE that we expand the Military Docks at Rhodes further.

I PROPOSE that we build better barracks in Kydonia.

I PROPOSE that we in Athenai recruit 3 units of Thorakitai and 2 units of Hippeis in addition to any units of the same type that are already being recruited.

I agree with the proposal of Arthourous.

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