The Half Monty [Concluded]

[God Emperor]

bah just lost what I wrote.. =/ I will start over.

But thanks for your contribution DiY:)
Overall I will agree with you, but I will go through some of your points, for the sake of having more to work with :)

It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it

So yes, I'm accusing Zack

these are the two major points in your post (the last one is just being kept short so that it's more digestible)

I agree that the nature of the ability is somewhat anti townish.. Normally it wouldn't but in this game, where ties means no lynch, a tie breaking ability is working against the town's wishes as it will shorten the time we have to work with.

Zack is very aggresive, seems to care about the game, and is not working very hard to catch scum.. these are some of the points, and the first two bits I agree with, but for the sake of being fair I think we should go over his posts, to see how actively he is searching for scum.

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Not voting Winston, eh? Who cares if he's not in the game?

Vote: JHT

a day 1 vote.. JHT votes for Renata and Zack votes for him.

I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking.

adding this to second that he indeed cares about the game.. Spam is so far not good in any way.

Also, vote: Zack

Vote: fluffyone was the most egregious spammer last night.

a day two vote. Zack votes for fluffy with no reason and accepts Renata's no reason vote, as he does not make a comment on it.

let's try with a second vote on you
Vote: Zack

Let's try giving reasons for our votes.

With a second vote on himself it's not fun anylonger and he now quotes Renata and myself. ; changing behavior towards votes.

Silly Day Two vote based on something trivial.


Immediate squirmy reaction.


Trying to fit in and play it cool; finds an excuse to OMGUS.

My vote stays.

Zack mark down his own vote as silly.. Does not go well in hand with his reaction towards votes on him with no real reason imo.
The next two bits is an attack on Fluffy.. These are at least to try and scum hunt, however..
'Immediate squirmy reaction' I personally do not agree with the conclusion on Fluffy's behavior, as to me it seems like fluffy is joking around and having a good time.
This post's goal is to replace the old reason for voting fluffy with a better one. But the 'Silly Day Two vote based on something trivial' contradicts his reaction towards silly behavior.. that is worth a notice, although it has been observed before that some people a not treating themselves the way they are treating others.

I meant something more than just Vote: Whomever.


I hadn't check this site until I voted.

As mentioned by DiY, Romanic spots this contradiction.. Zack does not back off but keeps claiming that his vote on fluffy is better than a Vote: random. Imo suggests scared/rigid behavior.

"extremely jumpy"

Deflects accusations with aloof and mocking behavior.

Whichever one is rolling their eyes more.

again, defending himself with the rolling eyes and mocking behavior .. That has been observed in scums

Sorry if my comment's does not say a lot, the main purpose was just to have his posts listed.
I would say DiY is correct on Zack's behavior.. Zack is not trying to catch scum and that does not go well in hand with serious behavior.

But honestly, that made a lot of sense, and given the lack of much else to go on at this point, there really isn't much reason not to vote:zack
At the very least he will stop tying up all our attention.

As Zack's behavior alone should be enough to have him lynched, I think this is a good point.

It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it

Now Renata claimed Quimby rather early.. That in itself is an interesting move and should be looked at.
DiY suggests that there is a connection between Quimby and Zack, but Renata decides to make a counter to that claim

Well all righty, enough of that.

I'm Mayor Quimby, and the tie-breaking vote was mine. It was not a one-off; it will show up whenever I am part of a bandwagon that is tied with any other for the lead at the end of the day. (It will not *cause* a tie.) Hence why Khazaar got lynched; I was voting for him.

I was wondering who would be the first to portray this as an anti-town power and why; and who would conclude that it was NOT an anti-town power, and why. I won't reliably be around until this evening, so this is as far as I can let it run.

According to her post, Zack was not saved ad the accusation on Zack is more or less BS "Well all righty, enough of that."
I believe DiY points out that her focus is off.. anyway I will second his opinion (as I have done a couple of times now) .
She has nothing to say in regard of Zack's allignment.
As stated before this ability has a scummy feel to it, and that alone should mark down Renata as suspicious.
imo there are two things to look at when it comes to her

1) Why did she so quickly come to Zack's aid and reveal her ability?

2) How has her voting patterns and similar been so far. She is in charge of a powerful (and harmful) ability, and she should thus tread with caution. There is a certain quote I wanted to reach :p

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Marge is my hero.

I just want to second what Romanic said a few days ago; Renata did this as a scum in another game.

Also, vote: Zack

Voting Zack.. so far so good.

No I didn't.

unvote, vote Khazaar

I kinda like where Romanic is going with his vote.

looking at Romanic's post

vote: Khazaar

His last vote may be an attempt to swim under the radar. While everyone is talking about Zack/Fluffy, he's casually throwing a vote on slashandburn.

You like where he is going with this? It's a fair vote in itself in fact, but I expected.. a bit more concidering what your vote leads to

Tally

3 Zack (GE, Fluffy, DIY)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
3 Khazaar (Romanic, Blackadder, Renata)
2 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk)
1 slashandburn (Khazaar)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer)
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3 not voting )Csargo, pever, slashandburn)

She just doomed Khazar instead of Zack.. That's hard to overlook concidering the suspicion that has been gathered Zack.. If Zack turns out to be scum, then Renata should go. Zack was saved and he was saved by Renata.

Unvote; Vote: Zack