The Greek Problem.

[QuintusSertorius]

well but for that ther's always a migration campain
massalia campaign i'm coming ;)

Kyrene is my first stop for a migration game. Just as I did in EB1, I'll use Epeiros.

[moonburn]

well if it was possible to create sub factions inside the eleutheroi maybe just scripting those city´s more cash would enable them to work better i mean syrakuse with a 4.000 mnai earning a turn should put up a decent fight and as for the stacks that always show up now and then they already come with their defenition (illiryan rebels, thracian rebels and so on)

i wonder if it´s possible to create mini economies for each sub faction ...

[antisocialmunky]

I think the scripted super stacks are pretty decent if all you want is a fight.

[fightermedic]

well with scripted stacks there still remains the problem that they are not agressive
thats the core problem really
how to get that nasty rebels to attack agressively

[Arjos]

Given that those settlements didn't become factions, due to non-expansionism, let them be not aggressive :P

[Ludens]

Well, that's arguable since, for example, Kyrene attempted to take over Egypt together with the Seleucids, and Syracuse had long tried to rule Sicily and Magna Grecia. EB1's faction list is not the only possible selection, even when using the same criteria.

That said: I agree that, at this point in history, the Greek colonies weren't particularly more aggressive than other cities. Creating a special faction for them would suggests that there weren't other minor players attempting to start their own little kingdom in the shadow of greater empires.

[fightermedic]

yes of course
doing so just for greeks is the wrong way
if doing something like this it would have to apply to any neutral city
the whole problem might, however, be most visible with the greek cities in mind since those had a extremley strong habit of fighting with any neighbour they had
but this surly applies to other possible factions like, lets say iberian tribes, too
empires minor/major faction thing would be a good way to have them factions, which the team would not have the time to fully flesh out, represented
well
but i gues you just have to work with what you have

well and regarding the agressive thing
i think almost every faction at this time was VERY agressive and engaged in many wars
it's just the fact that most did not have much succsess in terms of gaining big amounts of territory with their wars :D