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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Well one argument is that those kids will have a messed up understanding of gender roles that will damage their development.
    ... which not supported by any factual evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by American Psychological Association
    Can lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals be good parents?

    Yes. Studies comparing groups of children raised by homosexual and by heterosexual parents find no developmental differences between the two groups of children in four critical areas: their intelligence, psychological adjustment, social adjustment, and popularity with friends. It is also important to realize that a parent's sexual orientation does not indicate their children's.
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    ... which not supported by any factual evidence.
    And yet it is a logical and sensible conclusion. Have they even studied it, I have no idea...
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    And yet it is a logical and sensible conclusion. Have they even studied it, I have no idea...

    Any parent worth there weight in salt can explain why there are 2 mommies or daddies in the house

    Once again its not like any god fearing easy on the eyes hetero couple is having a beautifual white baby torn from there hands as homosexuals beat them with giant black dildos, only to then run to the nearest gay club where they sacrafice there infant to the "minority cause Gods"

    Freaking blood pressure
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    And single mums can explain why daddie isn't there but it still would have been better if he was in the first place.

    Once again its not like we're the frickin KKK Christian extremist Taliban that want to round up teh gays and shoot them in the kneecaps because we think they're icky, so we can steal the little babies off of loving homosexual couples and indoctrinate them with our Young Earth Creatonism and free market values.

    Freaking blood pressure

    etc
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Good, as they will also have to explain why school is that more cruel for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    And single mums can explain why daddie isn't there but it still would have been better if he was in the first place.

    Once again its not like we're the frickin KKK Christian extremist Taliban that want to round up teh gays and shoot them in the kneecaps because we think they're icky, so we can steal the little babies off of loving homosexual couples and indoctrinate them with our Young Earth Creatonism and free market values.

    Freaking blood pressure

    etc
    Not if daddy what jacked up on opiates and beating the tom out of mum

    Ok it's good to know no one is doing this for ulterior motives

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Good, as they will also have to explain why school is that more cruel for them
    That is of no fault of the parents. Fat and ugly kids get made fun of to, we shouldn't pander to some LCD
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Not if daddy what jacked up on opiates and beating the tom out of mum
    Well picking the worst examples from heterosexual couples doesn't prove anything, I never said some homosexual parents can't do a better job than some hetero ones.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Well picking the worst examples from heterosexual couples doesn't prove anything, I never said some homosexual parents can't do a better job than some hetero ones.
    Well then why should hetero ones get prefrence? Because it adheres to your completley arbitary definition of normal? I can pull 8 African tribes out of my backside they do communal female raising, clearly we are doing it wrong
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    And yet it is a logical and sensible conclusion. Have they even studied it, I have no idea...
    Yes.


    "We found that despite the ‘no differences’ mantra, many studies do report evidence of some intriguing differences, and even of some potential advantages of lesbian parenthood," said Stacey, holder of the Streisand Professorship in Contemporary Gender Studies. "A difference is not necessarily a deficit."

    Stacey and Biblarz found some evidence that children in gay households are more likely to buck stereotypical male-female behavior. For example, boys raised by lesbians appear to be less aggressive and more nurturing than boys raised in heterosexual families. Daughters of lesbians are more likely to aspire to become doctors, lawyers, engineers and astronauts.

    In addition, heterosexual mothers tend to encourage sons to participate in historically "masculine" games and activities – such as Little League – and daughters in more "feminine" pursuits – such as ballet. In contrast, lesbian mothers had no such interest – their preferences for their children's play were gender neutral.

    ...

    One area the researchers found no differences in was the mental health of children or their quality of relationship with parents. Children brought up by lesbians and gay men are well-adjusted, have good levels of self-esteem and are as likely to have high educational attainments as children raised in more traditional heterosexual families.

    "Levels of anxiety, depression, self-esteem and other measures of social and psychological behaviors were generally similar," Biblarz said. "While all children probably get teased for one thing or another, children with gay parents may experience a higher degree of teasing and ridicule. It is impressive then that their psychological well-being and social adjustment does not significantly differ, on average, from that of children in comparable heterosexual-parent families. Exploring how lesbian and gay parent families help children cope with stigma could prove helpful to all kinds of families."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Well some points from the study...

    "o Teenage boys raised by lesbians are more sexually restrained, less aggressive and more nurturing then boys raised in heterosexual families."

    Well clearly all that is bad, why not just castrate them?

    "o Adolescent and young adult girls raised by lesbian mothers appear to be more sexually adventurous and less chaste. Sons of lesbians display the opposite – boys are choosier in their relationships and tend to have sex at a later age than boys raised by heterosexuals."

    Bad again.

    Kids need the one mum/dad dynamic because unless they really can catch the gayness from homosexual parents, they will need to learn the typical dynamics of a heterosexual relationship (for the love of God, don't start going on about generalisations because 1% of couples differ from the norm) for later in life. If its a boy they need the male rolemodel, if its a girl the female.

    Your article already shows that changing this dynamic does have a big influence on the kids.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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