Gay Parenting

**LeftEyeNine** · 02-06-2011, 01:04

Something is swirling in my mind for quite some time now.

As non-humanitarian boundaries, at least in comparably civilized societies (Turkey not at a reasonable rate yet

), look to be disappearing, gay (take it as a term for both sexes) relationships are, legally, not despised; people with such tendencies are protected from harassment although it all comes down to the practicality. Anyway that's not the point of the thread.

None of us would, I guess, expect that it would just stay there, now that, in its natural course, it wouldn't suffice. Marriage is allowed in some countries, and frankly, the demand would eventually involve rights to parenting, and so it did.

As a naturalist -in my own understanding- myself, I accept what is supposed to be the way of the nature (sexual reproduction), as well as what comes with birth (homosexual tendency is one, I suppose) should be considered as tricks or treats from the nature, hence being natural as well.

Being gay, therefore, is "natural" from another "arm" of the same "nature guy" to me which makes me advocate that gays should be considered and treated no different than the heterosexuals. However, when it comes to parenting, *subjectively* stating that a child is nourished maternally and paternally in different ways, I'm quite skeptic about what kind of outcomes gay parenting may have on the sibling.

Is gay parenting too new to be observed about how kids grow out of such household or are there any paedological/psychological papers already that point some direction ? What are your thoughts on this ?

**Fragony** · 02-06-2011, 01:18

Changed my mind after being proved wrong, having two devoted dads is something to envy.

**Beskar** · 02-06-2011, 01:20

They seem pretty normal. Other than odd teasing and uninformed knee-jerk from homophobes who despise homosexually full-stop, there has not been any significant differences. There was a study floating around where apparently homosexual parents were better, but I haven't actually read it myself so I cannot vouch on the validity of these claims.

The whole "they need an x role-model" doesn't really happen since these get substituted by other role-models in the community, like teachers or famous people. They do benefit over single-parents because there is more parent-child time.

I haven't really got much to say and there isn't anything significant that I have heard about.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 02-06-2011, 01:40

This guy says everything I need to say.

**HoreTore** · 02-06-2011, 01:49

The argument that a homosexual union lacks the mother/father figure is ridiculous considering the number of single moms and dads raising kids these days.

But meh, it is no surprise that conservative homo-haters are unaware of whats happening in the real world.

**Furunculus** · 02-06-2011, 02:13

the statistics are quite clear that having two parents in stable relationship statistically guaranteed to bringer better outcomes for the kids............... i'm not sure it matters whether the parents are d00d's, gal's, or a mix.

**HoreTore** · 02-06-2011, 02:17

Yeah, I feel I can blame all my shortcomings on my parents divorce.

/sarcasm

**LeftEyeNine** · 02-06-2011, 02:25

Sorry, HoreTore, I can't see a conservative homo-hater around here. Why bring in a figure that has yet to be present within this discussion ? Do your ideas have to draw its energy from the stern disagreement/despise/ridicule you bear towards what/whom you oppose ?

Single moms and dads may be raising kids, of course, which is not the point. You can feed/shelter/provide education for anyone. I am rather concerned with how well it could be with gay parents (in a questioning manner). Yeah, a sexually "classic" family does not have to be the best family some kid can have. I just want to establish a rational idea on whether a family of gay parents is inherently more prone to flaws/issues with kid's mentality/social integration that could heavily affect his/her later life.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 02-06-2011, 02:37

Originally Posted by HoreTore

The argument that a homosexual union lacks the mother/father figure is ridiculous considering the number of single moms and dads raising kids these days.

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 02-06-2011, 02:44

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

lol. So punish the women who make the mistake of falling for a manipulative guy and make sure the kids don't know how babby is formed.

**HoreTore** · 02-06-2011, 02:55

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

I love your fire and brimstone side, Rhy. Especially considering its night time now, and I've had a few.... I might be a little...vulnerable....if you know what I mean.