Gay Parenting

[Beskar]

They seem pretty normal. Other than odd teasing and uninformed knee-jerk from homophobes who despise homosexually full-stop, there has not been any significant differences. There was a study floating around where apparently homosexual parents were better, but I haven't actually read it myself so I cannot vouch on the validity of these claims.

The whole "they need an x role-model" doesn't really happen since these get substituted by other role-models in the community, like teachers or famous people. They do benefit over single-parents because there is more parent-child time.

I haven't really got much to say and there isn't anything significant that I have heard about.

[a completely inoffensive name]

This guy says everything I need to say.

[HoreTore]

The argument that a homosexual union lacks the mother/father figure is ridiculous considering the number of single moms and dads raising kids these days.

But meh, it is no surprise that conservative homo-haters are unaware of whats happening in the real world.

[Furunculus]

the statistics are quite clear that having two parents in stable relationship statistically guaranteed to bringer better outcomes for the kids............... i'm not sure it matters whether the parents are d00d's, gal's, or a mix.

[HoreTore]

Yeah, I feel I can blame all my shortcomings on my parents divorce.

/sarcasm

[Beirut]

My brother is gay. I grew up thinking homosexuals were just one more variety of people to know. No big deal at all.

That said, I don't think gay couples should be allowed to adopt children if conventional couples are available. The right of the child to a "normal" (mother and father) upbringing outweigh the desires the gay couple to raise a child.

[a completely inoffensive name]

My brother is gay. I grew up thinking homosexuals were just one more variety of people to know. No big deal at all.

That said, I don't think gay couples should be allowed to adopt children if conventional couples are available. The right of the child to a "normal" (mother and father) upbringing outweigh the desires the gay couple to raise a child.

You think your brother is inherently a worse parent then any straight parent?

[Furunculus]

Yeah, I feel I can blame all my shortcomings on my parents divorce.

/sarcasm

while that's lovely, and I am delighted you turned into such a well adjusted* young man, your triumph as a single statistic does nothing to dispute the proven fact that kids with two 'loving' parents have better outcomes relative to kids with only one full-time parent.


*rofl

[rory_20_uk]

Sexual orientation is far less important than many other factors in who makes a good parent / good outcomes for the children.

[HoreTore]

while that's lovely, and I am delighted you turned into such a well adjusted* young man, your triumph as a single statistic does nothing to dispute the proven fact that kids with two 'loving' parents have better outcomes relative to kids with only one full-time parent.


*rofl

The majority of kids these days will be kids coming from divorced families.

I seriously doubt that civilizaton will collapse.


Moving was a much bigger issue for me than my parents divorce. Should we stop people from moving if thwy have kids well adjusted to their home enviroment?

[LeftEyeNine]

Sorry, HoreTore, I can't see a conservative homo-hater around here. Why bring in a figure that has yet to be present within this discussion ? Do your ideas have to draw its energy from the stern disagreement/despise/ridicule you bear towards what/whom you oppose ?

Single moms and dads may be raising kids, of course, which is not the point. You can feed/shelter/provide education for anyone. I am rather concerned with how well it could be with gay parents (in a questioning manner). Yeah, a sexually "classic" family does not have to be the best family some kid can have. I just want to establish a rational idea on whether a family of gay parents is inherently more prone to flaws/issues with kid's mentality/social integration that could heavily affect his/her later life.

[Rhyfelwyr]

The argument that a homosexual union lacks the mother/father figure is ridiculous considering the number of single moms and dads raising kids these days.

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

[a completely inoffensive name]

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

lol. So punish the women who make the mistake of falling for a manipulative guy and make sure the kids don't know how babby is formed.

[Rhyfelwyr]

lol. So punish the women who make the mistake of falling for a manipulative guy and make sure the kids don't know how babby is formed.

Well if only one person is found responsible for causing the divorce, then only they should be punished. Is there any reason at all why they shouldn't be? Unlike when you break any other legal contract?

As for the issue with sex education for kids, I don't care if this is offensive but the people pushing this are perverts. They aint right in the head if they really want to teach those things to 5 year olds.

I love your fire and brimstone side, Rhy. Especially considering its night time now, and I've had a few.... I might be a little...vulnerable....if you know what I mean.

Kadagar is the only Scandinavian for me! Ah, the ski resort... so many fond memories...

[rory_20_uk]

Well if only one person is found responsible for causing the divorce, then only they should be punished. Is there any reason at all why they shouldn't be? Unlike when you break any other legal contract?

In divorce, one side has to "blame" the other for the breakdown of the marriage. There is no scope for "just growing apart". From the court's point of view the stated cause for divorce is irrelevent.

Then the factor is that if you want a divorce, why contest the reason for it? It only adds to the time (and for lawyers, time=lots of money) before you can move on, unless "point scoring" is worth more than your free time and money.

Children generally still want to see their parents. Even if one was not that nice to their other, generally they still like to see a bit of them - it's just the way we humans are.

[Fragony]

No offence taken, but sexual education starts at 8 year's old here, you would be very happy with our sexual morality. No teenage pregnancies, they very rare at least. Almost everyones first time is a loving memory. Girls don't dress like total tramps. There's a sadness to more restricted societies that could never hope to dream to match teh Dutchlands

[HoreTore]

This is true, and two wrongs don't make a right.

The best way to tackle the issue is to make divorce punishable by law, its just common sense for breaking a legal contract. Also not giving children sex education from primary school would be helpful, because thats just sick.

I love your fire and brimstone side, Rhy. Especially considering its night time now, and I've had a few.... I might be a little...vulnerable....if you know what I mean.

[PanzerJaeger]

Studies have been pretty clear on the subject.

A Cambridge University developmental psychologist testified at a federal trial in San Francisco today that broad research has documented that children of same-sex parents are just as likely as those of heterosexual parents to be well-adjusted.

"Studies have found children do not require both a male and female parent," testified Michael Lamb, who heads Cambridge's Department of Social and Developmental Psychology.

The biggest challenge to same-sex parenting is a bigotted environment.