Quote Originally Posted by Riedquat View Post
When I've read Beirut's first post felt the same many of you, but after reading this entire thread I fail to see how none of you understand what he is saying... really! Considering I don't speak English at all, that is a lot to say...
There's not much to understand. His opinion is that it's "common sense" that gays are inferior parents to straight parents.

A number of people disagree, indicating that it may not be common, or even sense.

All you think its better for the child to have gay parents than straight ones? Because all is resumed there... he isn't saying don't give kids to gays at all... nor I, just lets try to accomplish the right of the kids to have a mom and a dad... old fashioned ones...
"Better"? Better implies discrimination against straight couples. No one has said that.

Equality is what is being presumed here.

As a bigot I would say, first show me a gay couple making a child naturally and then we speak about their natural right to be dads.... umm... that would be my dad speaking...
Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people have biological children all the time.

Edit: and thats the whole point! this is not about their right to be dads but about the right of the child to have a family;
Where is this right, and how is it guaranteed? My parents divorced when I was 4.

What right did I have to a father? What if my parents died? Does my right to a mother and a father bring them back to life?

How is a child being raised by a gay couple not a family, if a child being raised by a straight single parent is a family?

a couple years ago people of same sex weren't able to form a family, not on the society eyes; now we are discussing if they are able to rise kids, and nobody said they shouldn't...
Yes, people have said they shouldn't.

Having two couples, one straight and the other gay, both wanting to a adopt, both with the same socio-cultural profile, same economical status, (same race and religion), are you telling here you will roll a dice to decide which couple gets the child? Really? Wow...
How about a million couples, and ten million unwanted children?

Are you saying you're going to deny the child a family because you don't like gay people?