Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
It isn't about me and what I think, I actually agree with you lot. But how it should be and what just isn't is not up to me, for now just do what is best. I think it's selfish not to.
It's your way of approaching things. I don't begrudge you for it. But I feel there will be less pain on children today if they are adopted, and less pain for children raised by gay parents now and in the future, if it becomes more commonplace sooner rather than later.

I am not willing to let the fate of these children to be decided by people who do not want what is best for the children, and merely hate gays.

The children want a family, the adoptive parents want a child. What's holding it back are the sentiments of those who hate, and those who might genuinely think they're looking out for the kids by denying gay couples the right to adopt.

Me, I appreciate your good motivations, but I disagree with your decision to wait, I don't actually think it's better for the kids, and I believe the data backs me up on that. I would in fact be more willing to wait if I saw credible data that said children are miserable under gay parents, didn't want to be adopted by them in the first place, or something similar, in spite of my idealism. I am also as pragmatic as you are when push comes to shove, but I don't feel the data supports compromising our principles here.

Right now, the only thing standing between children and a hopeful future is fear that treating gay couples the same will turn out for the worst. I don't see that happening, and I don't give in to such fear when I think it's totally unwarranted.