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    To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

    Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

    Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

    So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

    But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


    THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.
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    haha, you're drunk
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    Default Re: Why is OK to harrass mormons?

    its much more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    its much more than that.
    Then by all means, do explain.

    Edit: and no strike, I only had the usual two beers with dinner today... The typing errors, if that was what you refer to is due to me not having mastered the iPad's touch keyboard yet.... Speaking of which, could some kind mod add the missing "it" in the title?
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    I thought it was the polygamy.

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    polygamy yeah they've supposedly changed.
    odd customs
    the innate perfection
    the secrecy
    the interesting founders story......

    Edit: but this thread is just one big bash so it should just be closed now

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

    Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

    Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

    So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

    But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


    THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.
    I think there miffed at them cos they rewrote the bible or summit, course so did every other denomination, but since it happened ages ago for most of them they can all be sniffy about it.

    Rewriting the bible pretty much calls into question there own mad view (insert mad viewpoint) seeing as they cant admit the bible aint litteral they must try to derail mormon candidates.

    Because somewhere in the books on the new testament is a bit about how Jesus was the last official prophet of the lord. Anyone who claims otherwise is perpetrating a big ass mortal sin. Anyone who follows said false prophet is also a sinner. Also there is the risk of them being the Anti-Christ*.
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    People make fun of things that don't mesh with what they believe, and mormons are a minority and therefore an easy target. The planets thing doesn't help their case.

    Personally, I love mormons. They make good US troops and are difficult to corrupt with booze and foul language. When the mormon girls come by to witness to me, I always invite them in and try to peek up their skirts by seating them in the short couch. A few have made me want to convert, until I found out they were married.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    To avoid derailing the electigaddon thread...

    Centurion made a comment on Romney, that he was a mormon, and that the mormon faith was "complete bull". And its not just our fellow orgah who does this, the hate other christians have towards mormons is evident whenever Romney is talked about, and is probably his biggest obstacle to becpmming president.

    Let's get the basic facts etraight, shall we? The christian faith is based on a burning bush who talked to some guy who had spent years wandering the desert, giving him ten laws that everyone must follow. Of course nobody but him saw the bush.... Some time later, a woman magically becommes pregnant without sexual intercourse. The baby grows up to walk on water and turn water into wine, before dying and then undoing the dying, and finally he flowts to into the sky.

    So, this story is believable, logical and plausible. Thus, one should not ridicule people for believing in it.

    But that he also made a detour to the americas some years after the events above? Now the story is suddenly laughable and idiotic, and its believers should be ridiculed at every turn.


    THAT makes no sense to me. Some people should take a long, hard look in the mirror.
    If memory serves, and mine usually does, Mormons believe that America is the New Jerusalem, originally populated by the lost Exiles who were then wiped out by the Indians. So there's the inherrent racism. then there's the archaeological nonsense with bronze weapons being used by the Jewish exiles 600 years after they fell pretty much completely out of fashion.

    Historical inconsistancies in Christianity certainly exist, but they are much less serious, often geographical errors that demonstrate the writer wasn't native to the region he was describing. There's also the fact that only Smith could see the tablets and yet the Mormons succeeded in translating them to Salt Lake City after his death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    If memory serves, and mine usually does, Mormons believe that America is the New Jerusalem, originally populated by the lost Exiles who were then wiped out by the Indians. So there's the inherrent racism. then there's the archaeological nonsense with bronze weapons being used by the Jewish exiles 600 years after they fell pretty much completely out of fashion.

    Historical inconsistancies in Christianity certainly exist, but they are much less serious, often geographical errors that demonstrate the writer wasn't native to the region he was describing. There's also the fact that only Smith could see the tablets and yet the Mormons succeeded in translating them to Salt Lake City after his death.
    This is somewhat true but not quite. Mormons don't believe that America was populated by the lost Exiles, but by a couple of Jewish families who where led there by God a few years before Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonians. The Indians are said to be descended from these people. There is no mention of the Jewish exiles using bronze weapons, however there are archaeological inconsistencies, most of which have to do with the people bringing metal tools and animals to the Americas of which no evidence has been found.

    The Book of Mormon was translated/written (whatever you want to consider it) quite some time before Joseph Smith's death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    If memory serves, and mine usually does, Mormons believe that America is the New Jerusalem, originally populated by the lost Exiles who were then wiped out by the Indians. So there's the inherrent racism. then there's the archaeological nonsense with bronze weapons being used by the Jewish exiles 600 years after they fell pretty much completely out of fashion.

    Historical inconsistancies in Christianity certainly exist, but they are much less serious, often geographical errors that demonstrate the writer wasn't native to the region he was describing. There's also the fact that only Smith could see the tablets and yet the Mormons succeeded in translating them to Salt Lake City after his death.
    I for one am a Mormon apologist. Of all the 35 000 Christian denominations, Mormonism rings most true to what was the original church of Jesus Christ. Only Catholicism has as strong a claim to the original.
    I was quite into religious debate during my years in university and met some interesting characters on this board. One in particular, Pindar was a Mormon and former missionary and I took a peek into his religion.
    I actually read the Book of Mormon and note the following:
    The exiles were not Jews (of the tribe of Judah) but were of Manasseh and Ephraim. They brought a valuable steel sword that became the template for other blades. The families got into a feud and separated. One wicked group (Lamanites) and one faithful (Nephites). The wicked destroyed the faithful and became the "Indians".
    Concerning the geography, I for one didn't notice any inconsistencies. It talks about a land in the north and a land in the south separated by a small strip of land (North and South America?).
    Besides, any attack on the Book of Mormon can be turned around towards the Bible.
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