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    Allthough they were written some time afterwards, and one at least was likely a copy of one of the others with bits added or removed, multiple witnesses and written accounts, while not exactly setting in stone (hah), do strengthen the probability of an event being true.
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    and we know jesus was a historical feature hes an actual person

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    Don't Mormon's believe they are god's and goddesses, and they get their 'bible' from a buried manuscript from in the ground and that the native americans are the true israelis's, etc.
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    It's only ok if you are outside their dominion of Utah.


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    Beskar: in a word, no.

    I think MRD has the best answer to the OP question.

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    You have an ipad?

    Does everyone in Norway have an Ipad?

    If not, how does it feel to be a member of the bugeroise slowy consolidating power through the use of Apple products feel?

    If so, I would like a plane ticket and a place on the couch.

    As for mormons? Good people, first long term relationship was with a mormon girl, very nice family. Much better than some of sado masochists pretending to be baptists running about.

    At least when mormons don't drink they have family board game night. I got a heavy dose of sexual repression from the blue hairs
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    The Mormons had their own "prom" like event about a week before or after the school prom. I was kind of interested in going because as it turned out, regular prom was not for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    You have an ipad?

    Does everyone in Norway have an Ipad?

    If not, how does it feel to be a member of the bugeroise slowy consolidating power through the use of Apple products feel?
    Excellent point, the resident communist comes here with his iPad to lecture everybody about hypocrisy...

    And on that note, what about scientology? Where were you when we celebrated the Anonymous actions against them?
    Or is it fine to make fun of their beliefs but the Mormons are somehow sacred?

    Are there even Mormons in Europe or is it an America-centric religion?
    At least the catholics tried to bring the happy message to the whole world but the mormons seem to content letting everybody outside America rot while they regain their godhood, how arrogant.


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    First off, mormons exist in europe, there's a mormon church in the city I live(Drammen).

    Secondly, I'm not saying we shouldn't poke fun at any religions, I'm of course all for that. But while I poke fun at religious people, I'm not saying that my socialism is not to be made fun of. Which is what conservative christians do; they mock the mormons while at the same time saying its not OK to make fun of their own religion.
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    @ Husar

    I don’t know how many Mormon Converts there are outside the US but every Mormon male, at least, don’t know about the women, is expected to go on Mission.

    My cousin spent two or three years in Italy converting, or trying to convert the people. Of course in his spare time he was also tracing his genealogy back to Adam and Eve, as they require...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post

    I don't know how many Mormon Converts there are outside the US but every Mormon male, at least, don't know about the women, is expected to go on Mission.
    Indeed - in my hometown I quite often met young Mormons "on Mission" (perhaps because it was a city with a very high number of students). I have to say that these guys were without exception extremely nice and friendly - and actually not even obtrusive with regard to their mission. Had some interesting chats with them, even when it was clear early on that I was not interested in discussing religion.

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    Because Mormonism is another idolatrous man-made religion. The true Christian religion however has existed since creation and unlike the whole world system of religions with their arbitrary commandments etc, the law of Christ is written in men's hearts and is self-evident to those that are born again.

    All other religions are created by a prophet at some point in human history... when with Mohammed in the 7th century for Islam, Catholicism around the 4th Century, Judaism with Moses (which they do not realise was meant to lead them to Christ), Mormonism with Joseph Smith etc. These religious systems do not even pretend to have deeper roots, they were created with their founding figures.

    On the other hand, Christianity was not created by Jesus 2,000 years ago, but with the creation of Adam. In Christianity, morality is not something arbitrary based on following strange rituals or observances (despite the best efforts of depraved man to make it so, whether within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism), but is instead a natural law, which all men understand by nature. And this is what sets Christianity apart from the whole Babylonian system of world religions.

    And this is why a Mormon should never be President. If a man lives by the man-made laws of the different religions, and not the true natural law, then he will never be a moral ruler. Like the pharisees he can make the outside of the vessel clean with his ritual washings, but the inside will always be full of iniquity, and this will reflect itself in his Presidency.

    But then, the USA already has Catholics and atheists for Presidents, so...
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Because Mormonism is another idolatrous man-made religion. The true Christian religion however has existed since creation and unlike the whole world system of religions with their arbitrary commandments etc, the law of Christ is written in men's hearts and is self-evident to those that are born again.

    All other religions are created by a prophet at some point in human history... when with Mohammed in the 7th century for Islam, Catholicism around the 4th Century, Judaism with Moses (which they do not realise was meant to lead them to Christ), Mormonism with Joseph Smith etc. These religious systems do not even pretend to have deeper roots, they were created with their founding figures.

    On the other hand, Christianity was not created by Jesus 2,000 years ago, but with the creation of Adam. In Christianity, morality is not something arbitrary based on following strange rituals or observances (despite the best efforts of depraved man to make it so, whether within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism), but is instead a natural law, which all men understand by nature. And this is what sets Christianity apart from the whole Babylonian system of world religions.

    And this is why a Mormon should never be President. If a man lives by the man-made laws of the different religions, and not the true natural law, then he will never be a moral ruler. Like the pharisees he can make the outside of the vessel clean with his ritual washings, but the inside will always be full of iniquity, and this will reflect itself in his Presidency.

    But then, the USA already has Catholics and atheists for Presidents, so...
    ...and John Calvin created Calvinism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    But then, the USA already has Catholics and atheists for Presidents, so...
    Who is the atheist if you don't mind me asking?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    ...and John Calvin created Calvinism.
    No, his works are a refutation of all the man-made trappings that were stuck on to Christianity.

    Although I agree some modern 'Calvinists' follow him like a sort of profit. I was dubbed a heretic by some on a certain site recently. I asked for scriptural arguments but all they could do was quote theologians and confessions of faith. NOT very Protestant!

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    Obama.
    Except for the fact he attends church frequently and was a devout member the United Church of Christ before the Rev. Wright scandal...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Because Mormonism is another idolatrous man-made religion. The true Christian religion however has existed since creation and unlike the whole world system of religions with their arbitrary commandments etc, the law of Christ is written in men's hearts and is self-evident to those that are born again.

    All other religions are created by a prophet at some point in human history... when with Mohammed in the 7th century for Islam, Catholicism around the 4th Century, Judaism with Moses (which they do not realise was meant to lead them to Christ), Mormonism with Joseph Smith etc. These religious systems do not even pretend to have deeper roots, they were created with their founding figures.

    On the other hand, Christianity was not created by Jesus 2,000 years ago, but with the creation of Adam. In Christianity, morality is not something arbitrary based on following strange rituals or observances (despite the best efforts of depraved man to make it so, whether within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism), but is instead a natural law, which all men understand by nature. And this is what sets Christianity apart from the whole Babylonian system of world religions.

    And this is why a Mormon should never be President. If a man lives by the man-made laws of the different religions, and not the true natural law, then he will never be a moral ruler. Like the pharisees he can make the outside of the vessel clean with his ritual washings, but the inside will always be full of iniquity, and this will reflect itself in his Presidency.

    But then, the USA already has Catholics and atheists for Presidents, so...
    Your post doesn't make sense. Christianity didn't exist before the coming of Christ, so in that time Judaism was the true religion, and began with Adam, not Moses. Mormonism claims to be a restoration of true Christianity so your claim that it doesn't even try to have deeper roots is false.

    Mormonism doesn't claim that morality comes from rituals. Also don't forget that babtism and the sacrament/communion come from the New Testament of the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuchip View Post
    Your post doesn't make sense. Christianity didn't exist before the coming of Christ, so in that time Judaism was the true religion, and began with Adam, not Moses. Mormonism claims to be a restoration of true Christianity so your claim that it doesn't even try to have deeper roots is false.
    I don't know what religion or none you belong to, but how do you think the saints of the Old Testament were saved? Did they observe the whole law so that they may be spotless before God? Or did they look forward to Christ as their saviour? King David was a Christian, he was born again.

    You say Judaism began with Adam, but of course the whole ceremonial law was not given until the time of Moses and expanded long after that. For the Jews the observance of this law is necessary for righteousness... and yet as a Christian I can look back and say that the entire law has existed since the time of Adam, since it is a natural and not a positive law.

    Mormons might claim to be a restoration of true Christianity but they are clearly wrong. They might have some intersting ideas which are tied to the Jewish roots of the early Christians, and it is true that much of modern Christianity is very biased by Hellenistic takes on the religion. But ultimately they say themselves that the Bible is not perfect, and that Joseph Smith's work completes it. And he brings in a whole number of strange of practices with no scriptural justification. Plus the Mormons never completed the Reformation and purged themselves of Catholic man-made traditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuchip View Post
    Mormonism doesn't claim that morality comes from rituals. Also don't forget that babtism and the sacrament/communion come from the New Testament of the Bible.
    There is no support whatsoever for water baptism or the so called 'holy communion' in the New Testament.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Because Mormonism is another idolatrous man-made religion. The true Christian religion however has existed since creation and unlike the whole world system of religions with their arbitrary commandments etc, the law of Christ is written in men's hearts and is self-evident to those that are born again.

    All other religions are created by a prophet at some point in human history... when with Mohammed in the 7th century for Islam, Catholicism around the 4th Century, Judaism with Moses (which they do not realise was meant to lead them to Christ), Mormonism with Joseph Smith etc. These religious systems do not even pretend to have deeper roots, they were created with their founding figures.

    On the other hand, Christianity was not created by Jesus 2,000 years ago, but with the creation of Adam. In Christianity, morality is not something arbitrary based on following strange rituals or observances (despite the best efforts of depraved man to make it so, whether within Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or much of Protestantism), but is instead a natural law, which all men understand by nature. And this is what sets Christianity apart from the whole Babylonian system of world religions.

    And this is why a Mormon should never be President. If a man lives by the man-made laws of the different religions, and not the true natural law, then he will never be a moral ruler. Like the pharisees he can make the outside of the vessel clean with his ritual washings, but the inside will always be full of iniquity, and this will reflect itself in his Presidency.

    But then, the USA already has Catholics and atheists for Presidents, so...
    Thank you, Rhyfelwyr, for answering the OP.

    Also, thanks for the laughs. Protestants who try to prove their Christian church has been around longer than The Church always amuse me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Thank you, Rhyfelwyr, for answering the OP.

    Also, thanks for the laughs. Protestants who try to prove their Christian church has been around longer than The Church always amuse me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Thank you, Rhyfelwyr, for answering the OP.

    Also, thanks for the laughs. Protestants who try to prove their Christian church has been around longer than The Church always amuse me.

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    Depends what you mean by Church. If you mean the Church of Scotland, yet I'm not very interested in tracing its roots as an organisation.

    The invisible church of all the saints however has existed since the time of Adam.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    it's ok to make fun of all of them.
    I´m an equal opportunity harasser.
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