Gay Pandering

[Strike For The South]

Ah ok. Nothing really ever changes

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[rory_20_uk]

The middle classes might push for more groups, but then if they don't, no groups will be coming.

Even with all the useful and stupid groups that they clamour for, I doubt they get back more than a sliver of the money the government takes; I doubt this ratio is true of the poor oppressed "working" class...

[Fisherking]

You know PJ, I have known people my whole life who were gay. I have never known one who had to be situation inappropriate unless it was for shock value.
I don’t buy into stereotypical gays because I haven’t met anyone who matches that description. It is a sexual preference and no one shows their sexual preference all day all the time.
I conclude that most mannerisms are effected. There may be a tendency to behave slightly more like the opposite sex but many people who are not gay also have those tendencies.

I was not talking about Federal Funding either. That is usually Nonprofit Groups or Organizations.

Teen suicide is not a gay issue. It is a teenage issue. Teens are conflicted over everything and anything, most ever teen is somehow conflicted over some sort of sexual issue, what leads them to take their lives is more individual, why make it a gay issue?

Do you have any more current information on violence against gays? I find it hard to believe that it is still on the rise 10 years later.

Perhaps I have just lived in places where it was more acceptable. I just can’t say but most of the violence I know of that was directed against gays was more because they took risks they shouldn’t have.

I also know of violence against others who took such risks.

I think that the murder of Matthew Shepard was a tragedy. But I think that anyone walking out in the night with strangers is taking a big risk.
I am fairly sure that anyone walking out with those two thugs was taking their life and placing it into their hands and I wouldn’t give squat for their chances of coming out alive.

I have had gay friends beaten up because they went with strangers but I have also had straight friends who met the same fate.

Criminals tend to take advantage of the unwary. Criminals tend to use any excuse they can think of that might excuse what they did. I generally comes down to who is an easy mark.

And yes, there are people who hate gays! And people who hate everyone else too. There is no identifiable group who doesn’t have someone who hates them.

All of us fit into some groups or sub-groups who also have hate groups who despise us but we don’t make it the hallmark of our existence.

[PanzerJaeger]

You know PJ, I have known people my whole life who were gay. I have never known one who had to be situation inappropriate unless it was for shock value.

And I've known some light skinned blacks who could pass for white with a rich tan! Wait, what?

I'm having difficulty understanding what anecdotal experience has to do with anything.

I don’t buy into stereotypical gays because I haven’t met anyone who matches that description. It is a sexual preference and no one shows their sexual preference all day all the time.

Oh, but you do. Sexual orientation may be more subtle than skin color, but it is very difficult to operate in a society without it coming out. Try building friendships, working in an organization, or having a meaningful relationship devoid of greater social awareness.

Suppose a gay man wants to take his partner out to dinner for Valentine's Day. Should they just order in to avoid shocking people?

I conclude that most mannerisms are effected. There may be a tendency to behave slightly more like the opposite sex but many people who are not gay also have those tendencies.

Interesting, and you got your psychology degree from which university?

And again, what is the conclusion you are trying to draw from that conclusion - that gay people, having the ability to live in secrecy if they really work at it, are not at as big of a social disadvantage as blacks, hispanics, or women?

I was not talking about Federal Funding either. That is usually Nonprofit Groups or Organizations.

I'm sorry. I confuse easily. What exactly are you talking about then? You opened the thread with this:

But why is it that people who demographically come from and belong to an affluent background seem to think they require taxpayer assistance in forming a social network?

And then you went on to accuse them of seeking special status and compared them to spoiled children.

Teen suicide is not a gay issue. It is a teenage issue. Teens are conflicted over everything and anything, most ever teen is somehow conflicted over some sort of sexual issue, what leads them to take their lives is more individual, why make it a gay issue?

It becomes a gay issue when teens kill themselves because of harassment due to their sexual orientation.

When an otherwise normal child from loving, supportive family hangs himself for no other reason than constant, vicious bullying over his sexual orientation it is a _______ gay issue.

Do you have any more current information on violence against gays? I find it hard to believe that it is still on the rise 10 years later.

October 17, 2010.

Perhaps I have just lived in places where it was more acceptable. I just can’t say but most of the violence I know of that was directed against gays was more because they took risks they shouldn’t have.

I also know of violence against others who took such risks.

This is too vague for my small mind to comprehend.

Are you trying to say that violence specifically targeted against gays isn't a recognized and common occurrence, or that the gays themselves are to blame for it?

I think that the murder of Matthew Shepard was a tragedy. But I think that anyone walking out in the night with strangers is taking a big risk.
I am fairly sure that anyone walking out with those two thugs was taking their life and placing it into their hands and I wouldn’t give squat for their chances of coming out alive.

I have had gay friends beaten up because they went with strangers but I have also had straight friends who met the same fate.

Criminals tend to take advantage of the unwary. Criminals tend to use any excuse they can think of that might excuse what they did. I generally comes down to who is an easy mark.

And black boys ought not be whistling at white girls in the South. It's all about situational awareness, right?

In the link I posted above, a man was targeted based on his sexual orientation, kidnapped, and beaten within an inch of his life. I guess he should have been carrying.

Are you willing to admit that gay people are in fact targeted for violence based on their orientation?

And yes, there are people who hate gays! And people who hate everyone else too. There is no identifiable group who doesn’t have someone who hates them.

And some groups are at more risk and/or disadvantaged than others.

I'm certainly averse to social engineering, but let's wait until gays start asking for extra points in college admissions or reparations before we engage in reactionary intransigence.

All of us fit into some groups or sub-groups who also have hate groups who despise us but we don’t make it the hallmark of our existence.

And gays do? Can you elaborate on that?


Maybe it would help to clarify exactly what this thread is about. I thought it was about the supposed desire of gay people to be granted, in your words, 'taxpayer assistance', but the meandering nature of your posts seems to suggest it is more about why you think gay people suck.