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    Default Re: Gay Pandering

    Something to note:

    Washington state has civil unions and other rights for gay people, including the right not to be fired for sexual orientation.

    So this is not a state unfriendly to gay people.

    What this seems like is some guy complaining that the government isn't doing enough for him because it doesn't subsidize his interests. Apparently the city should do 'diversity funding' and 'community building' for gay people.

    I don't think the city should do that for any group, much less a <5% group were a complaint is he has to drive an hour to go on a date.

    Considering the problems in the world and the city that's nothing. So good on him for starting the facebook group, but his cause doesn't deserve government funds.

    one small suburb south of Seattle
    Federal Way isn't a suburb.

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    Thanks for not thinking I am being deliberately bigoted PJ.
    What I am doing is just taking a provocative position on the topic.

    for Strike:
    The cited studies:
    I am not disregarding them. Just informing.

    When they are proved wrong or discredited in review it doesn’t mean they are taken off the internet.

    I am sorry if you thought that I was just disregarding science.

    I didn’t accuse anyone of deliberately using wrong data. Should I?

    Of course not! Even after being discredited you find them cited by people who know better.
    So far as science can determine, homosexuals are perfectly normal and typical humans. Studies to prove otherwise seem to fall on their face.
    If you wish to use tainted works we can prove the world is flat.
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    It is the same with the pc figure of 5% of the population is gay or lesbian. The actual percentage of those who identify themselves as homosexual is 1.51%.
    Naturally it does not cover those who may wish to hide it or who struggle with it, however, historical estimates have usually run at about 2 to 2.5%.

    Why indeed is the figure exactly double?
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    The only point I differed on with the APA was a deliberate one. It is how ever misleading. A very tiny percentage have reported that it was choice. Should that be totally disregarded? Therefore I did list choice.
    My main point was the need for the money to go to a less than needy group.
    Poor people gay or otherwise should come a head of the type of organizations proposed in the article and the topic.

    I was not expecting PJ’s passionate response but tried to deal with it in a somewhat deflected manner.

    Where violence against gays is cited I have pointed out high risk behavior by the group which could lead to violence.
    Where a supposed need to “stand out” or show ones orientations is brought up I simply bring out that it may not be appropriate in some setting.

    A few years ago this is what some gay group were advocating. Shocking the public into recognition. It is not the best course unless you also wish to see a rise in incidents. In other words, trolling.

    Does this mean only the “bigots” are to blame?

    Homosexuality cuts across all groups at roughly the same frequency, therefore in the United States this means that some 75% are white.

    Median Income:http://www.mediabuyerplanner.com/ent...sehold-income/

    I think that speaks to the factuality of my position.

    Don’t draw the conclusion that I hold gays & lesbians totally responsible for all violence against them.
    Don’t think I do not support public education on this or other topics.

    Homosexuals being normal have no more need than anyone else to be provocative.
    When behavior is meant to incite a response, that behavior is as much to blame as the responder.
    This is just my disagreement with the tactics and not the minority group.

    As to SFTS’s comment on tough Queens; Categorizing and stereotyping is just wrong. Some of the most masculine men and feminine women I have known were homosexual in orientation.
    I knew a former linebacker for a Pro Football team who was homosexual, but I wouldn’t want to call the man a Queen.

    There is a great deal of misinformation on the topic and it seems to be coming from both sides to support their position.
    This too seems to be normal human behavior, no?

    And no PJ you are not acting like a spoiled child, you just get passionate about your topics.

    edit: I am getting old and needed the mental exorcise, but now I think I need a nap.
    Last edited by Fisherking; 02-11-2011 at 10:54.


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