Why does noone compete with totalwar

**Swoosh So** · 02-13-2011, 01:17

I often wonder why noone competes with the totalwar franchise i mean really most games are just copies of others with different themes so why has noone in 10 years sucessfully copied their structure of game turn based/real time battles. I reckon even a game with the quality of shogun 1 with slightly better graphics could grab a good bit of the market from CA on era alone and strange not to see any fantasy type games that go for it either.

**A Nerd** · 02-13-2011, 01:26

I have wondered this too. The only games I can think of that are similar, are mission based and not sandboxie. I prefer conquring the map vs. winning the game fighting one scripted battle after another.

**Beefy187** · 02-13-2011, 01:40

Japanese game called the Kessen had similar idea with TW games.
Except it was on play station and the variety of units were less.
It was more of commanding shogun who serves you and watch the kick ass short movie which happened every now and then.

Good game that.

**pevergreen** · 02-13-2011, 02:04

Theres a surprising number of games that are trying it.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/24400/

Thats basically Total War in the legend of King Arthur. Has a campaign map, turn based. Has battles which go the same.
Made by Neocore, and all they do now is basically the same thing. They had a crusader one, new one coming out, same thing basically.

Problem is, the battles suck.

Real time version of TW campaign map:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/90100/?snr=1_5_9__13
Thats a really fun game by an indie dev.

Most games just don't combine both elements.

**Cecil XIX** · 02-13-2011, 03:37

The original X-com was rather similar, just with turn-based battles and a real-time campaign map. Also, Magitech Game's Takeda 3 is very similar to Shogun.