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    Default Re: Separation of Science and State

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    I like medieval buildings too, at least the ones nice enough to have not been torn down over the years.

    But where's the answer? You said that scientific evidence is provided by the scientific method, and I pointed out that there is a huge amount of scientific evidence that is not tested or provided by the scientific method, does not have to be verified by the standards of the scientific method. Instead it is tested by the measuring tools themselves.

    And I'm not sure what the dispute is supposed to be about, because religion has generally concerned itself with non scientific questions!!! The real contrast would be between the standards of philosophical argument and the religion method of appeal to authority in the form of tradition.
    i will have to agree with sasaki here. though perhaps it is arguable that those tools you speak of are the result or an exponent of the scientific method in the sense that its verifies things ultimately by going outside (the mind and logic) and testing and retesting phenomena and then draw conclusions based on those results

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    i will have to agree with sasaki here. though perhaps it is arguable that those tools you speak of are the result or an exponent of the scientific method in the sense that its verifies things ultimately by going outside (the mind and logic) and testing and retesting phenomena and then draw conclusions based on those results
    Measurement is just another form of testing. Think about it: you measure for new curtains, then you measure again to be sure your measurements are right. It's science writ tiny.

    So far as we can deduce medieval building were built essentially by deciding how long and wide you wanted it, and then everything else was described by interceting arcs using a giant pair of compases.
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