Separation of Science and State

[Askthepizzaguy]

So the reason religion and the state must remain separate, but science and the state must not, is that science is right?

Hey, if you want to ignore the entire content of my post, feel free, but then do me a favor and don't respond to it.

I never said any such thing, I said that science and religion are wholly separate, very different kinds of phenomena.

They are not competing, opposite viewpoints, that you can complain one or the other is being favored. You can be a totally religious fundy and still respect what science says about the universe. You can cling to a belief, but also understand that the belief itself is an assumption that cannot be falsified and is thus a different kind of knowledge; opinion.

Science, on the other hand, is a name for a formal method of gaining knowledge. Knowledge and how we gain knowledge are not the same, they aren't in competition, they are wholly different concepts.

The entire premise of this thread is based on a huge misunderstanding of the key concepts involved. That is why I won't bother to respond to why there is a separation between religion and the state, until the fundamental assumptions underlying this argument are revised.

-_- science is based on a set of beliefs as well. axiomas. and thus from the base out, they can be compared. to not even consider that point seems like intentional ignorance to me as well.

Breathing is based on a set of beliefs as well, such as the belief that if you breathe you will remain alive, and that remaining alive is a good thing.

I propose we separate breathing from the State, since we're being intentionally absurd and ignoring everything I just said.

Any concept that involves the conscious mind also involves thinking and arguably, "belief". That does not mean everything the brain does is comparable with everything else it does, and that it's all the same. Opinion is learning is thought? No.

Thinking is different from knowing, knowing is different from learning. Some things are beliefs, and others, are methods. Beliefs and methods are not the same. An apple and a baseball are not the same.