Haha just kidding
If you want to donate limited rescources to this crap you're an idoit
Save NPR!
Haha just kidding
If you want to donate limited rescources to this crap you're an idoit
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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What don't you like about it? I heard part of a very interesting interview with a military interrogator today.
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The part where my money goes to fund itOriginally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
That part
High art and culture should be vanguarded, not politics
Its just a waste of money, granted its a mere pittance but ya know, the whole you gotta start somewhere thing
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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It probably costs you a nickel a year.
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Correct, I would never postulate that NPR is crippiling our budget but in the same vein that nickel could be better spent elsewhere
Like education for instance
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Maybe we could spend a nickel in education creating an educational radio program.
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Yea kids these days are glued to that radio....
PBS may actually be worth saving, NPR has some good shows and is certainily 100x better than the conservative chicken littles but it does not merit government funding
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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If NPR gets little money from the government, then it ought to be able to survive just fine without subsidies.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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-facepalm-
NPR isn't really that biased guys. All legitimate news sources: Al Jazeera, NPR, PBS are all smeared by conservative hosts as liberal/extremist media when in fact they are not.
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Too risky, and the government ought to fund it anyway. It's a shame private donors have to.
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Its not about the biases sweetie
Too risky, and the government ought to fund it anyway. It's a shame private donors have to.
Why?
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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It's an important public service. Quality information is vital for any kind of democratic society.
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I am quoting you right here: High art and culture should be vanguarded, not politics
What did you mean by that bold part if not complaining about a bias? The fact they are covering politics at all?
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That's the rub though, the people who listen to NPR are well informed and in a world without NPR they would still be well informed
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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It's state-funded media. How could you trust them to report truthfully on the government?
Also, their main audience are above-average income people - hardly people who couldn't get news elsewhere.
Speaking of which, this is the age of the internet. There are innumerable sources of news and information available.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Why do you want to eliminate choice CR?
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because it's an archaic way of deceminating information that uses taxpayer money
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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As opposed to primarily ad funded
What the heck is going to happen, they report something the government doesn't like and then the government pulls their funding? Isn't that what you are supporting?
They do a good job.
The internet is largely a cesspool. The primary thing in our time is not that the information is available, but that we don't have time to sift through everything.Also, their main audience are above-average income people - hardly people who couldn't get news elsewhere.
Speaking of which, this is the age of the internet. There are innumerable sources of news and information available.
CR
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I want choice; the choice of what to do with my dollars; I don't want them taken under threat of force and given to a picked media organization.
If others want to donate to NPR I don't care.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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So we can trust the gummint to sift for us?
I remain unmoved sir\
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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My point is that they are less likely to report on something the government doesn't want them to.As opposed to primarily ad funded
What the heck is going to happen, they report something the government doesn't like and then the government pulls their funding? Isn't that what you are supporting?
They do a good job.
If they do such a good job, they can survive without government funds.
So we should trust people paid in part by the government to determine what to tell us?The internet is largely a cesspool. The primary thing in our time is not that the information is available, but that we don't have time to sift through everything.
There's a lot of crap on the internet, but it's not hard to find reputable news sites.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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NPR Is biased enough that you can readily see it is so.
Now if someone proposed funding Fox News Radio because they perform a public service, how do you think people should react?
Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
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Except this is kind of disconnected from reality. Jim Lehrer isn't a government shill, yet PBS is funded by the government.
If you are going to criticize the fact it "might' not report on government activities, you are on shaky ground. Since when did mainstream media at all report on government actions? Didn't we just just have a 15+ page thread about wikileaks? Oh hey guys, now that the Iraq War is unpopular, we will go ahead and report that all of the reports we have gotten show no WMD's.
They might be doing a good job because the government funds allow them to keep on essential journalists and staff for all you know.
Your argument isn't really an argument. "We should keep this one source of news around." "Nah, kill it's funding, why should I trust them?" It's not about trust, it's about maintaining sources of information. The fact that that they are government funded makes them inherently leaning towards impartial because no one wants to do a slop job of bashing one side or the other and having congressional repercussions on their funding. Saying, well they won't tell us about the government is the same as complaining that Fox News won't tell us about Murdoc's sex life. It is a given, in the meantime, coverage on every other topic besides government scandals are superb from both PBS and NPR.
You already admitted you can find stuff on the internet, go find your government scandals there.
EDIT: I guess the rule of free market economics is maintain choice except when you don't agree with how the other choices are operated.
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The government is doing zero sifting.
No they aren't. Is your only argument that the government funds them in part?
But they shouldn't need to, they should get more funds. There is absolutely no reason to want our news shows success to be determined by how well they sell themselves. Advertising agencies pulling funds and viewers changing the channel to something more sensationalist are both much bigger influences than congress potentially holding a publicly debated vote to remove a small part of npr's funding.If they do such a good job, they can survive without government funds.
You are in conspiracy theory territory here CR with this "paid in part by government" stuff. This is america not north korea.So we should trust people paid in part by the government to determine what to tell us?
There's a lot of crap on the internet, but it's not hard to find reputable news sites.
CR
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wut?
My money is going to fund it...
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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PBS in reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkDtKNw2PAY
PBS in CR land:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flBpsyFbEOs
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A majority of their money come from private donors.
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I love NPR's
The Thistle and Shamrock -> http://www.thistleradio.com/index.ph...572&Itemid=109
and Wait Wait Don't Tell Me -> http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/
Wooooo!!!
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Pull the funding. I love my local station, WNYC. They actually pay NPR, BBC, Marketplace, etc for the shows. Public radio can simply raise their rates to supplement the loss in grant money and local stations can do a longer money drive. NPR I find to be rather biased and I don't tend to enjoy their programs. I prefer the local NY commentary by Lehrer (amazing) and Lopate (very interesting). Marketplace is fantastic along with BBC world, of course. I love Al Jazeera and I hate Fox News, BTW.
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I only eve listen to the government-funded radio stations, P1, P2 and P3.
I will never switch over to the private crap, none of that ad-funded nonsense for me!
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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