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    Default Re: Public Sector Union Beatdown Bloodbath Legismania 2011 Wisconsin-style

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Apparently not.

    Right-to-work states do not have higher scores than states with strong unions. Actually, the states with the highest performance on national tests are Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Vermont, and New Hampshire, where teachers belong to unions that bargain collectively for their members.
    That's not a serious article. It is written by someone with one opinion. She links no study suggesting her claims, has a pre-concieved bias and doesn't say whether the "results" are causal or associated. You would laugh an article that I posted out of the forums with those credentials.

    Maybe the answer to our deficiency in education is to simply allow ALL teachers to bargain collectively?! What were we thinking, we were way off the mark there!

    I've got waiting for Superman in my netflix queue for a quick summary from one angle (a childrens advocacy group). Here is a Harvard study questioning the legitimacy of collective bargaining in education:
    In fact, the results of the collective bargaining process are too often incompatible
    with providing a high-quality education for all students. Growing public recognition of
    this reality has prompted some reformers and visionary union leaders to embrace the socalled
    “new unionism,” but unfortunately this high-minded approach has so far yielded
    more wishful thinking than tangible policy changes.
    Somebody is likely flat out wrong in their assertions as to whether collective bargaining is good or bad for students. Your article weakly suggests that it is good, my (questionable) common sense and nearly everything I've read have said it's not - except for that article you've posted.
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 02-21-2011 at 14:07.
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