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    Default The Russian CIvil War, any good side?

    Did the Russian Civil War have a good side? I am asking because recently while researching the Russian White Movement I have found some very contradictory conclusions on Pogroms, did the Soviets join in with the Ukranians and VA, did Petliura encourage them or try his best to discourage them, did Denikin oppose them or endorse them, and is it fair to say that everyone would have been better of had the communists lost so I am wondering what the people here think about it since this forum seems very knowledgeable on history in general.

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    Default Re: The Russian CIvil War, any good side?

    The first rule in studying history

    Don't take sides
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    I was hesitant to post for the above reason; The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks had serious and legitimate reasons for the calling of an armed uprising. I think the Tsarist elite at the time would have disregarded anything less than an armed revolt, as was seen in the lead up to the civil war. I doubt if the White forces had won that much would have changed, Deninkin was a royalist sympathizer, and Wrangel had little interest in coordinating the Pro-White Armies (who were largely in a much more fractured state than the Bolshevik blocs).

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    There is very good side. Independence of Finland, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.
    Without civil war in Russia would be much harder.
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    @ strike, I have untill now usually thought of the civil war as two nearly identical sides, untill finding this book http://books.google.com/books?id=X7Z...llborn+crusade

    which has shaken my earlier opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I was hesitant to post for the above reason; The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks had serious and legitimate reasons for the calling of an armed uprising. I think the Tsarist elite at the time would have disregarded anything less than an armed revolt, as was seen in the lead up to the civil war. I doubt if the White forces had won that much would have changed, Deninkin was a royalist sympathizer, and Wrangel had little interest in coordinating the Pro-White Armies (who were largely in a much more fractured state than the Bolshevik blocs).
    Hmmm that is interesting but I thought Wrangel was the ultra-reactionary while Denikin was the more incompetent one?

    @ Krook

    Yes those were good sides, but what about the Pogroms? Even combining the Whites and Reds the Russians only did 25.5% of them, unless I am much mistaken.

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    I read a big thick book on the different White generals and the forces several years ago. From what I vaguely remember the Czech Legion and the final White Army holdouts in the Crimea seemed most sympathetic to me.

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