Civil War in Libya

[Sarmatian]

Laughable and dissapointing.


But then, we're not there out of any illusions about the rebels. We are there because the Libyan too has the right not to be killed.

There are few conflicts which are fought between orcs and white knights. Important for the intervention in Libya are questions such as whether there will have been some net gain in human suffering averted, and if there is a way out at some point (a mere delay is pointless).

So, Nato countries may as well have supported Gaddafi. War over quicker, much less human suffering. I thought the intervention happened because rebel government was democratic and it, oh dear, turned out to be full of self-proclaimed leaders who want to be Gaddafi instead of Gaddafi...

Your ability to find excuses is truly astonishing...

[Louis VI the Fat]

So, Nato countries may as well have supported Gaddafi. War over quicker, much less human suffering.

That's a good point.

One could claim this is exactly what we did, up until all hell broke lose two months ago. Gaddafi was tolerated/supported because there was no ready alternative, no net gain to be had.

All sorts of weirdos and freaks are tolerated because merely bombing them into oblivion would not solve anything, will not bring about any improvement. Perosnally I think we ought to guillotine one random autocrat every three months or so, just to keep them all scared and running, even if it only means the next one will take his place.

[Sarmatian]

That's a good point.

One could claim this is exactly what we did, up until all hell broke lose two months ago. Gaddafi was tolerated/supported because there was no ready alternative, no net gain to be had.

All sorts of weirdos and freaks are tolerated because merely bombing them into oblivion would not solve anything, will not bring about any improvement. Perosnally I think we ought to guillotine one random autocrat every three months or so, just to keep them all scared and running, even if it only means the next one will take his place.

Can't argue with that, I just don't like to see it done over other people's back.