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    Default Re: Civil War in Libya

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    You know what the fighters think, you know what the street protesters think. By your logic, do you really know what your own government is up to? Have you seen lengthy interviews with each and every member of the parlament? Are you worried about this?
    No, but I have read and listened to lenghty interviews with most of the members of the government, president and most important opposition leaders. Quite a few of them, actually.
    I have seen interviews with rebel leaders embracing democracy on the BBC (I believe they used that exact word), in the early days of the revolt. I cannot link to it as it is not easy to find it. You will, though, probably find interviews of a newer date where they express the same ideas.
    I've seen Hashim Thaci embracing democracy after he dropped off another contingent of people to have their kidneys forcibly removed, but I digress. So, naming one of them shouldn't be too hard, should it? Know who your friends are, isn't that the plan? Shouldn't we be sure we aren't supporting some Saddam-wanna-a-be?

    Given the unrest there as well as the small rallies in the capital (these kind of rallies are safe, remember?), do you honestly think the reality is much different? And what makes you think the situation in other cities is so much more different? What makes Tripoli, Zawiya and Misrata so special? Benghazi and Tobruk? Bayda? The list goes on - and nothing indicates that any of these cities are special cases.
    I don't know but you seem to do. You're freely explaining the will of the Lybian people here based on a few words from random rebel fighters. Interestingly, there's quite a few CNN/BBC articles and news reports which source is "unnamed rebel".

    This might all be true, but what you are doing is essentially cowardly sniping. It takes little to put forward ideas, what is harder is to actually back them up. I could just suggest that Serbia is a part of some grand conspiracy in Libya or elsewhere, a role which will not unfold before it is too late. Can you defend yourself against such a suggestion? Don't think so.
    You might, but Serbia doesn't have a record of intervening in countries around the world, especially those strategically located or rich with mineral resources and energy. Additionally, unlike countries involved in Libyan intervention, Serbia doesn't have a history of colonial expansion, invading and regime changes in all four corners of the globe and most importantly, Serbia doesn't have the manpower, military and economic capabilities to pull it off.

    Anyway, are the govts of Iraq and Afghanistan actually "Western puppets"? Doesn't really look like it.
    Iraq is holding up better than expected, true, but Afghanistan can't take a leak without checking with Uncle Sam first.
    Last edited by Sarmatian; 03-20-2011 at 15:36.

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