Very much so, 0000s of dead Americans and trillions spent does notOriginally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
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Very much so, 0000s of dead Americans and trillions spent does not
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What does that have to do with anything? Are you crediting the wars with spuring on this change and then ruing the cost to our lives and treasure? I wasn't talking about that.
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It is always heartening to see a people trying to take their own future into their hands, and with the military defecting it is likely to only be a matter of time before the entire Government is overturned. Now it is just a matter of waiting to see whether what takes the place of Gaddafi is any different.
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I'm reading on twitter from several eyewitness sources that protesters have taken over State TV.
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Further evidence that the best way of overthrowing dictators is to... DO NOTHING.
Trade with the country freely, don't isolate them. Then slowly over time the people themselves will get fed up with things as their standard of living / understanding increases. Whose fault is it? No, not the USA / EU / other bogeyman as they've not done anything. It is the leaders.
Anger is then at their leaders, and being against their own isn't being a pawn of the USA / whoever.
Thankfully the UK is too broke to even think about getting involved in these quagmires.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Yep, no invasions, just a better spread of information, and the ordinary people can figure things out and organise themselves.
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It's like 'Nam all over again isn't it?Further evidence that the best way of overthrowing dictators is to... DO NOTHING.
Trade with the country freely, don't isolate them. Then slowly over time the people themselves will get fed up with things as their standard of living / understanding increases. Whose fault is it? No, not the USA / EU / other bogeyman as they've not done anything. It is the leaders.
Anger is then at their leaders, and being against their own isn't being a pawn of the USA / whoever.
Thankfully the UK is too broke to even think about getting involved in these quagmires.
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I suspect that was another Zionist/Western/American plots to overthrown the righteous Khaddafi. I myself support him, and it was his own right to slaughter those rebellious mob. Sometimes, they need to have some lessons.
PS: I bet Khaddafi will just need to take his Tanks out and crush those western puppets, he don't want bad publications though, and instant rebel defeat ain't a good story to news coverage.
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