Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
Even if the rebels win in Libya and they are all for peace and democracy as they preach, that will forever be stained by the fact that western governments placed them in charge by military intervention and Libyan blood.
Why would a Libyan democracy be stained by this intervention ? Both the American first and the French fourth republic owe their existence to crucial foreign intervention. Quite happy about that. The German democracy was entirely imposed at gunpoint. Nobody complains about that.



The more important lesson from Yugoslavia is that we need to remember that the world is a cynical place. Idealism is inevitably abused.

In both Bosnia and Kosovo the difference between besieged civilians and hardcore expansionist Islamocriminals was unclear, and the end result was, especially in Kosovo, a state which is one third mafia, one third Idslamofascist, and one third the Eastern Congo. Common sense would've dictated we looked away while Serbia solved a problem that will plague Europe for an eternity to come. But we didn't, because we can't stand by while civilians are being crushed by a despot and his paramilitary hordes.
Likewise in Libya. One need have little illusion about the continued support of the Arab League (already gone), or about the dirtyness of the business of war, or about the nature of the rebels. Libya will be a hellhole whatever the outcome. Despite that, we can't stand by while civilians are being crushed by a despot and his pan-African mercenaries.