Civil War in Libya

**Lemur** · 10-14-2011, 16:24

FWIW, the post-revolution recovery seems to be going better than expected.

Elementary schools opened last week. The university will open next month. Water and electricity are flowing. Uniformed police are on the street. Trash collection is haphazard but functioning.

This is the fastest post-war recovery I have witnessed: faster than Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq or Afghanistan. Certainly faster than Somalia, Sierra Leone or Rwanda.

Why this rapid recovery in a country marked by four decades of dictatorship? Why does Libya seem on track while Egypt seems to have gone off the rails?

Libya has at least three important advantages: good leadership and clear goals at the national and local levels, careful planning and adequate resources.

**Fragony** · 10-14-2011, 16:35

Post-war? Heard some less hallelujah-worthy things but we'll see

**Ignoramus** · 10-15-2011, 00:33

Apparently things aren't quite so settled yet:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-fighters.html

**Fragony** · 10-15-2011, 08:59

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Apparently things aren't quite so settled yet:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-fighters.html

There is still massive fighting going on in loyalist strongholds. Rumour has it that the UK parachuted SAS who got badly pwned by loyalists, 24 dead, 12 captured.

**Viking** · 10-15-2011, 10:58

More like propaganda.

**Fragony** · 10-15-2011, 13:58

Originally Posted by Viking

More like propaganda.

More like uncomfirmed, SAS getting pwned that is, not the heavy fighting. Propaganda would be telling it's ok to be bombing Libya because we just got to save these civilians, and it usually looks like what Lemur posted.

**Viking** · 10-15-2011, 14:23

Originally Posted by Fragony

More like uncomfirmed, SAS getting pwned that is

The regime has been claiming to shoot down planes and what not since day 1. Nothing new.

**PanzerJaeger** · 10-16-2011, 02:42

Originally Posted by Fragony

Propaganda would be telling it's ok to be bombing Libya because we just got to save these civilians, and it usually looks like what Lemur posted.

Haha, nice one Frags. Don't let the same people who have been spreading nonsense about impending genocide, foreign mercenaries, and protecting civilians lecture you on propaganda.

**rory_20_uk** · 10-16-2011, 13:39

Originally Posted by Fragony

There is still massive fighting going on in loyalist strongholds. Rumour has it that the UK parachuted SAS who got badly pwned by loyalists, 24 dead, 12 captured.

Using that many SAS at once on such an unimportant things seems a hellish risk. Losses like that would take possibly years to replace and for pretty small gains.

A lot of troops and no clear targets (even if Gadaffi et al were inside, nothing to be lost in ensuring a tight noose rather than risking one's best troops.