Civil War in Libya

**Fragony** · 10-22-2011, 18:33

Even Reuters comferms at least 40.000 by the Red Cross, estimated much much more maybe even over a hundred, check your news-sources yourselve

**Viking** · 10-22-2011, 20:03

~ 170 people killed per day for 8 months? No way; the only estimate at 40 000 that I see, is from the NTC. The numbers do not add up.

You will find that on average, the NATO bombing moved the front lines out of the cities and in to the surrounding areas; this because the rebel forces were the best at urban warfare (their home towns).

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 10-22-2011, 21:38

Originally Posted by Viking

~ 170 people killed per day for 8 months? No way; the only estimate at 40 000 that I see, is from the NTC. The numbers do not add up.

You will find that on average, the NATO bombing moved the front lines out of the cities and in to the surrounding areas; this because the rebel forces were the best at urban warfare (their home towns).

Even so, non combatants were mainly killed by Gadaffi, and he would have done that even if NATO had no intervened. Not to mention all the other people he has killed over the years.

**Ja'chyra** · 10-22-2011, 22:00

So the New Libyan Army assualting toens never killed civilians?

Our justification for the war ended when Gaddafi was paraded alive and then turned up inexplicably dead. Now don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less that he's dead but when we justify intevention with protecting lives that must mean all lives, not just the poeple we like.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 10-22-2011, 22:04

Originally Posted by Ja'chyra

So the New Libyan Army assualting toens never killed civilians?

Our justification for the war ended when Gaddafi was paraded alive and then turned up inexplicably dead. Now don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less that he's dead but when we justify intevention with protecting lives that must mean all lives, not just the poeple we like.

Civilians leaving Sirte were checked for weapons and sent on their way, they expected to be shot. Dissenters who stayed inside Sirte were shot.

There's the difference.

**Adrian II** · 10-22-2011, 22:20

Originally Posted by Fragony

Even Reuters comferms at least 40.000 by the Red Cross, estimated much much more maybe even over a hundred, check your news-sources yourselve

I can find neither a Reuters message nor a Red Cross communiqué on this. Where did you find those?

AII

**Adrian II** · 10-23-2011, 10:23

Originally Posted by Fragony

Even Reuters comferms at least 40.000 by the Red Cross, estimated much much more maybe even over a hundred, check your news-sources yourselve

Like I wrote earlier, I can find no Reuters message or Red Cross statement to this effect. Can you tell us where they are?

AII

**Fragony** · 10-23-2011, 11:11

Originally Posted by Adrian II

Like I wrote earlier, I can find no Reuters message or Red Cross statement to this effect. Can you tell us where they are?

AII

Few pages back, guy called AdrianII posted it, you know him. Must admit that I can't find the red cross part either though might not be true that it's comfirmed, give them a call tomorrow