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    Though I try to keep my brain away from the gossip side of the media, as I consider it mostly irrelevant over-hyped troll garbage, I find myself oddly having a morbid interest in the Charlie Sheen fiasco.

    http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/thefamous...episode/739?nc


    It's odd because I don't watch TV, and I haven't seen Charlie Sheen in..... anything, in quite some time. So why would I even care what he has to say? I haven't a clue.

    Anyway, the bottom line is, he's been in and out of rehab and it's affecting his job. His employers aren't thrilled about it, but amazingly, are willing to put up with his bull so people can keep their jobs and everyone can continue making money. Rather generous employers, I'd say.

    Now, Charlie goes off on a hate/insult rant about his employers, publicly, while stroking his own massive ego. They decide to cancel the rest of the season (not even the whole show, just the season!) and I understand why. Maybe some time off will let Charlie get back on his feet and his head back in the game. Well instead of that, Charlie goes off on several more tirades, threatening to sue, and saying that although he's the highest paid TV actor, it's not nearly enough, he needs to earn 50% more than he was earning, because he's unhappy with how he's been treated.

    My initial reaction was similar to hearing NFL players whine about their contracts and not making enough money when they make what the vast, vast majority of people can only dream of, by a wide margin. But, I also understand just how hard that job is and how short most of their careers will be, so you have to make the money while you can, and it takes a toll on your body, which you only get one of.

    Here, it makes even less sense. Sure, during production, an actor will work fairly hard, and then get many months off to recuperate, while earning a gigantic truckload of money, and not exerting their bodies or their minds particularly hard. It's a fairly cushy job by comparison to most jobs, but it pays well when you're in demand, because you can make loads of money for advertisers, and viewers are picky. Therefore, some of that pay is well warranted, I suppose.

    At the same time, you do have to realize that you're only worth that pay because people want to watch you. When they don't, you realize really quickly that you ain't worth jack. Look at Michael Richards and how his career took a dive after Seinfeld was over, and especially after the N-word fiasco. Look at Mel Gibson, who can find work, but it's not going quite so well for him now.

    One of the things that turns people off is when you have everything you could ever want, and much much more, you want for nothing, and you're beloved by millions of people, and you get a virus inside your brain that changes you from a normal human being with shame and humility, into a jackass of epic proportions.

    People who earn that kind of money should be thankful every single day that they are so fortunate. Instead of spiting their employers and their fans, they should spend an hour on their knees kissing the *** of everyone they meet, thanking society at large for showing them devotion that is disproportionate for what they actually contribute to it. Let's face it, they aren't teaching kids or saving lives here.

    When they get it inside their head that they are not an average human being with a (luckily) marketable face and learned acting ability who happens to be in demand (now), and decide that they are forged from the blood of angels, and that everyone on earth should be kissing their ***, and that even though they're already at the very top of the food chain, they deserve a 50% pay increase for their own jackass behavior, that's when I start to frown.

    As I might have mentioned elsewhere, about 4 years ago, I was working for the same company I am working for now. Making minimum wage.

    Somewhere along the line, said employer decided that since drivers earn tips, they can get away with giving drivers a 50% pay cut. It might have been when the economy tanked and they realized those drivers couldn't find better jobs elsewhere. But whatever the case may be, tens of thousands of hard working people already in the lowest of the low margins in our otherwise prosperous society got shafted by a relatively large degree; an extra million dollars is nothing to Charlie Sheen. An extra couple of dollars an hour means the difference between health insurance and going without a doctor for other people.

    Some people don't realize just how good they have it, and they don't realize that if it weren't for other people out there who actually watch their programming, they would have to work a lot harder for far, far less money, and then they might actually have something worth complaining about in their lives.

    It seems to me, Charlie Sheen has been bitten by the god virus. He seems to think he is god. Maybe the stress of having so much good fortune is getting to him, and it's making him lose his mind. Or perhaps it is the indulgence into excessive drugs which has scrambled his brain, but I am certain of one thing; he's lost all connection to reality, and he's set himself up for a big fall of his own design, based squarely on his own asinine decisions.

    He's not done for yet, but he's pushing it. If I were a fan of Sheen's before this fiasco, I wouldn't be now. I have been turned off by stars who think they are kings before. I don't find it at all cute or amusing. I have a feeling if he keeps this up, its going to turn off some of his more loyal fans as well.

    Somewhat related: He's not that old, and yet, he looks worse than my grandfather. He's not going to have marketable good looks very soon if he keeps this up. So much for that blood of the tiger nonsense; he looks like he's been mauled by the tiger. Have you seen a mirror lately, Charlie? You'd have to be tripping to think you're an Adonis. Whatever you're paying your makeup team, DOUBLE IT.

    He's gone and smoked himself crazy.

    This isn't going to end well. He would benefit from a heavy dose of humility and several long, public apologies. I also fear if he doesn't snap out of it, he's not going to live past 50. That level of self-absorption is actually lethal, because you forget that it all ends when you mess up that same frail set of organs that everyone on this planet has. You forget that you're not actually exceptional after all; you're just another bag of flesh struggling to breathe, and all the money in the world won't save you when they find you face down in your own toilet one morning.
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    Its times like this I envy some people's ability to motivate themselves into writing essays worth of text.
    Sounds like he's been testing what he can get away with and is getting close to breaking point.
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    I've gotten into the habbit of watching Two and a Half Men recently...

    Although Charlie Sheen is being a and is wrong in just about every respect, he is so brazen and over-the-top about it all I can't help but find myself backing him, got to admit he's got style.
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    I love Charlie Sheen

    If he can get away with this stuff and still make money, more power to him

    Same with professional athletes
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    hes attacked a women. therefore he is a piece of crap.

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    In light of what cent said, I take back what I said earlier. I just thought his talk about his "flaming fists of vengeance" on the director was hilarious, but he really is just a scumbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    In light of what cent said, I take back what I said earlier. I just thought his talk about his "flaming fists of vengeance" on the director was hilarious, but he really is just a scumbag.
    His comments are hilarious, but in a sad way. If it was said in jest, it would be hilarious in a good way, but this is a guy who's got domestic violence on his record, accidentally shot Kelly Preston, has been arrested for assault and menacing, and the police have been called on him several times for drunkenness and causing damage to people's property. He's just plain out of control and dangerous. Frankly, after you've been called out by several women for being a violent abusive person, I lose all respect for you. You just combine that with his apparent attitude towards employers and fans and his ridiculously inflated self-image, and you've got a pattern of behavior that is difficult to admire.

    He is a scumbag, but we love our entertainers so much that it doesn't always bother people. Now, obviously, one doesn't have to be a paragon of virtue to be likeable, or even marketable, but there is a line somewhere where you just have to say no thanks. You could be talented, but I can't overlook how much of a menace you are. One is more important than the other.

    This guy has a lot to apologize for, but he still thinks he's the . My point is that he really is not, and he's going to be the last person to figure it out, and when he does, it's not going to be a happy ending.


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    Its times like this I envy some people's ability to motivate themselves into writing essays worth of text.
    When you type fast, it's as easy and comfortable as breathing or having a normal conversation. This is honestly zero effort for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    He is a scumbag, but we love our entertainers so much that it doesn't always bother people. Now, obviously, one doesn't have to be a paragon of virtue to be likeable, or even marketable, but there is a line somewhere where you just have to say no thanks. You could be talented, but I can't overlook how much of a menace you are. One is more important than the other.
    So essentially, if you're gonna be a magnificent bastard, you'd better darn well be magnificent?

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    What's that Sheen quote? Ronin shared it last week or so. Something like:

    "They lay down with their ugly wive in front of their ugly children and their loser lives and then look at me and tell me I got it all wrong."
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    Drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaxfetish View Post
    So essentially, if you're gonna be a magnificent bastard, you'd better darn well be magnificent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Hold on there. Do you really think Carlos Estevez deserves to mentioned with the likes of Gaius Julius Caesar, Ben Linus, and Otto Von Bismark? I don't.
    Carlos Estevez doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the likes of Emilio Estevez.
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    How did you manage to write 1,200 words on what you thought of Charlie Sheen...
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    And we suppose to care because, why again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    How did you manage to write 1,200 words on what you thought of Charlie Sheen...
    With his fingers, duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    With his fingers, duh.


    Maybe someone else did it for him.

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    Charlie Sheen v Muammar Gaddafi: whose line is it anyway?

    The US actor and the Libyan leader have produced some choice lines recently. Can you distinguish between them?



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    Holy poop, I got 6/10 right, but the most outrageous of the statements were the ones I reversed.

    Dang, that Sheen is truly a madman.
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    "Here's the good news: If I realize that I'm insane, then I'm okay with it. I'm not dangerous insane."
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    tripping?

    I think you mean...winning!




    a close friend of mine has already said all that needs to be said in his blog:
    http://countofthenetherworld.wordpre...ao-of-winning/

    i have heard a few of his interviews in the last few days....doesn´t sound insane to me....sounds like he doesn´t give a **** on a massive level about what other people think of his habits.

    it boils down to this.....are any of us living in a big house, partying with pornstars and carrying around suitcases full of coke?
    I´m not...so who am I to judge? :P
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    I want to have a three way with him and Mel Gibson.
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    On the whole I agree with ATPG.

    Oh, he now has a twitter account: http://twitter.com/charliesheen#

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    HATERS GONNA HATE
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Oh, he now has a twitter account: http://twitter.com/charliesheen#
    The dude had 500.000 followers on twitter before even posting a single thing.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Such awesomeness: 'I have defeated this earthworm with my words – imagine what I would have done with my fire-breathing fists'. But is it Gaddafi or Sheen?
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    Like the comment:
    If ignorance is bliss, Glenn Beck and anybody who believes his delusional nonsense must be in a perpetual state of ecstasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    The dude had 500.000 followers on twitter before even posting a single thing.....
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    What a home life for his 2 year old boys. Charlie & the porn star or their drug addict mother.
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    We've got a nice mix of people who think his behavior is appalling and not even funny, and people who are cheering him on.
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